Why will an ASUS A7S333 MB not detect a Maxtor DiamondMax 4320 on IDE2?

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I am putting together a system for a buddy. I salvaged his old Maxtor HD and was going to put it on IDE2 as master for the Windows Swap file. But the BIOS does not detect the harddrive. When I put it on the UDMA IDE1, it works just fine. The CD-ROM (Lite-On) is detected fine on IDE2 as either master or slave (does not matter). What is the deal here? IDE1 is reserved for the WD 80GB UDMA HD, IDE2 I'd like Master = Maxtor HD and Slave = CD-ROM.

I flashed to latest Bios, checked and exchanged cable, etc. To no avail! This is driving me nuts and has cost me the whole afternoon!

Any help would be VERY MUCH appreciated!

Thanks,
Jay
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WakeupSpecialist 1

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Hmmmmmm.........Are you sure the Old Drive has the correct jumper setting?  Try setting it for master and see if the computer will see it?  Also try unplugging the CRom drive and just let the HDD run by itself....see if it may be a drive incompatability issue.  It is also a possibility that the drive could have gone bad since removal from the old machine?

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I tried the jumper settings, cables, everything... The only way I can get the BIOS to consistently detect the drive is by putting it on IDE1. It detected it once on IDE2 in an 8 hour span and that must have been a fluke thing because I was never able to reproduce it.

I ended up, in the mean time, adding it to IDE1 as slave, then moving all the data off of it to IDE1 master drive and tossing it. I'm just gonna run one HD only although I really wanted to use the old one for Swapfile ;)

But I'd still like to hear if anybody has a solution or seen something similar before.

Thanks,
J
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Have you set it up master/slave to the main Primary IDE?  Which i am assuming you mean IDE1?  IDE2 is secondary IDE
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Have you checked the jumpers at the back of the devices? Hdd and Cdrom...

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Yes, IDE1 = Primary IDE, IDE2 = Secondary (I'm lazy like that ;]).

I wanted the Maxtor HD to be Master on IDE2 and the CD-ROM to be slave on IDE2 so there wouldn't be anything slowing down the UDMA 5 HD on IDE1. But like that, none of the devices on IDE2 get detected.

If I leave the CD-ROM only on IDE2 (no matter if Master or Slave) it is detected and works. If I put the Maxtor HD as either Master or Slave on IDE2, it is not detected.

If I put the Maxtor HD on IDE1, it is detected no matter what, and if I put it as Slave on IDE1 and put the UDMA5 HD as Master on IDE1, it is also detected but the whole IDE1 runs in PIO mode.

I also have a problem where this particular Motherboard is having a very hard time starting up after it has been completely disconnected from power. I have to press RESET several times in a row before it will come on and sometimes the green power light will keep blinking at a regular interval and nothing happens until it stays on, then the system will come up. Also, sometimes, I can hear the CD-ROM do a whizz whizz, whizz whizz, like the board is trying to access it even before the BIOS kicks in.

I dunno, this whole thing is acting really weird and I'm thinking about getting it exchanged, if I can ;( I've had ASUS boards in the past, but never with problems like these.

Still any ideas?

Thanks,
J
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Ya, As stated earlier, your IDE controller may be going bad.  That is a highly strange issue.  I would suggest getting it replaced.  Especially if it will not work on the secondary controller at all.... with or without the CDRom drive...
And it works in the primary.  
And now that you are saying you are having problems with the motherboard.  Powering up and starting the system, it is very possible that the system is not functioning properly.  Check the return poilicy of the board.  Most Decent companies give a year warranty on parts.  Does not mean they will swap it out right away for you.  They may have to send the old one back for service first.

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Just sad, the board is brand new, fresh out of the box. It wasn't mee, I got one of those static wristbands and even then, I only grab it by the edges.

I'm gonna wait a day or two more and see if someone else has any ideas.

The whole thing is just very sporadic. It will boot just fine and then the next reboot, it gets stuck. After pushing RESET a couple times, it'll come on and BIOS will popup, but it'll say "Secondary Master failed" (which would be the CD-ROM). So I RESET again and this time it'll work just fine.

Also, the "SPACE BAR turn the PC on" Feature will work sometimes, sometimes not.

I just wonder if the Power Supply (Antec 350W) is maybe not giving out enough juice, too much juice, or too much noise or what? Or if the Mouse, Keyboard, HD, CPU just draw too much at start.

Waaah, so many possibilities...

L8er,
J
WakeupSpecialist 1

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hmmmmmm........that is strange tho...Antec 350 watts are great.....I am running a 300 watt enermax....with 6 hard drives on it.......2 80 giggers and 4 40 giggers, a SCSI CDrom reader DVDrom and Plextor 40x burner....with an ATI Radeon 9700 pro that needs it's own molex power connector, 2 512mb sticks of cas 2 pc2700 ram, and an AMD Athlon XP 2100 processor.  All is running fantastic.  So 350 for antec...(antec makes decent power supplies...) and all that you are running on it should be fine....unless your power supply is not working properly.  

But it should definitely be enuff....

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Just so you know, IDE0= Primary and IDE1= Secondary. Set the CD as the Master on the Secondary IDE and the Maxtor as the Slave on the Secondary IDE. If you are only using it for a windows swap file, it shouldn't matter whether it is a Master or Slave. I have found that sometimes the jumper needs to be set to Cable Select instead of slave for it to work. Let me know if it works jzavag@netzero.net.

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Hmm, OK, I'll try that, I believe I have and it wouldn't work, but I'll make sure. The system is back at my buddy's now, so it'll be at least a week until I get to try that out. So far though, it's working good.

Thanks,
J
WakeupSpecialist 1

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jzavag, i thought he already corrected himself on the IDE0-1 thing....
sokay tho....

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One thing to note is that WD hard drives use a setting of "single" instead of "Master" when they are the only HD on the channel.  Set your drive to this position by removing the jumper or turning it sideways (so that it doesn't jump any two vertical pair).  This might do the trick.

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Thanks, I'll try that out ;) But in the mean time, the board also quit detecting the CD-ROM, so who knows what the problem is, I really wonder if the board is bad?!

I'll get back whenever I find time to look at it.

L8er,
J
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To close this whole thing up (sorry I let it drag for so long), here's what went down. The IDE2 controller was in did damaged and it seems the CD-ROM was the culprit. I don't know if something shorted out or what, but when I tried the same CD-ROM with another older board, it toasted it as well. I don't know why it worked all this time with the original board, maybe I screwed something up although that would be a first ;-)

Either way, thanks for the ideas and the assistance.

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