AMD Athlon XP 1700+@1100mhz???????

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I bought an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ and every time i start my computer it says the speed is 1100mhz or when i go to system info it also says 1100mhz ????
Shouldent it be running at 1.4ghz. I have a SOYO mb SY-K7ADA.I have 384mb PC2100 DDR-SDRAM. PLZ HELP
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Yes, this CPU should run at just over 1400MHz.

1) How do you know this is really an XP 1700+?  Perhaps you got it from a crooked dealer who re-marked it...

2) Have you checked that your MB actually supports this CPU at this speed?  Perhaps you need a BIOS update.
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Try looking for jumpers for your board and set the FSB for 133, and not 100.  100*11=1100
133*11=1463.  That is what it should be at.  See this question:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Q_20280756.html

soyo says your board K7ADA runs 2100+
K7ADA 1.0 runs 2200+
So your board can handle it:
http://www.soyousa.com/kb/kbdesc.php?id=16
If you need to know the jumper settings for your board check soyo's site out.  I tried but for some reason I can not download the PDF file for the manual to look it up for you...
Quick Settings guide:
http://www.soyousa.com/downloads/selectresults.php?language=&col1=Motherboard&col2=45&col3=QS+%28Quick+Settings%29+Guide
Manual:
http://www.soyousa.com/downloads/selectresults.php?language=&col1=Motherboard&col2=45&col3=Manual

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The FSB (Front Side Bus) speed should be 133 MHz, but most motherboards default to 100 MHz for stability's sake.

And fortunately it's usually a BIOS setting, not a physical jumper to move. On the EliteGroup and ASUS motherboards we use, it's pretty trivial to find the entry (CPU PlugAndPlay) and correct this. We have to do this occasionally when they forget their BIOS settings.

Just press 'Del' when BIOS is detecting hard drive should usually get you into the setup, and then you just browse menus until you find it. There might be two distinct settings for CPU and ram - set both to 133 MHz.
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Or to be 100% sure, just go to soyo's website and the manual will show you where in bios to make the FSB change if necessary, or jumper settings.  

There are still many boards that use the Jumpers to set FSB speed.  MSI being one of them.

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In my quick start guide it shows me for CPU multiplier #'s 5-12.5 and i dont know which one to put it on right now its set to auto i have to change a jumper and and then change a dip switch. in my quick start guide for every # theres a combination for the dip switch

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Also in my guide theres something called synchronous/asynchronous clock mode between CPU and memory interface setting.this is what it says. The FSB Frequency can be set through DIP switch FJ1 or BIOS and it may therefore differ from Frequency the CPU specifies. Doing so may however force your CPU to operate out of its specifications and then it has a table showing this
CPU Freq(MHz)|SDRAM(MHz)|1|2|3|4
100           |100|     |on|on|off|off
133          |133 |     |on|off|off|off

I think mine is set on the 1st 1 with 100mhz
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You need to set it to 133 in order to get the correct FSB.

133FSB Multiplied by the CPU Multiplier (as you stated above #'s 5-12.5) should be set to: 11
As I stated above in my first comment 133 Multiplied by 11= 1463 Which is what it needs to be set at for the Athlon XP 1700 setting.

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However, unless you've fiddled with the chip in order to overclock it, it will ignore whatever multiplier setting you set in the BIOS anyway--it will always run at 11x multipler (to give 1466MHz on a 133MHz bus, the 1700+'s rated speed).

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Wakeup ur right thanx i did it and it works. When i start it up it says AMD Athlon XP 1700+ and it shows the speed thanx alot but know it gets hotter faster and it restarts by itself when i go to paint and paste something and i wanne add a chasis fan bot not sure which 1 and i wanne get a BIOS upgrade but im not sure how u do it i did what it said at www.soyo.com but i have windows XP and on the SOYO website they say they recommend using a windows 98 bootable floppy but i d\l the XP boot disk but im not sure if i should have d\l the 98 boot disk can u help again thanx.
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XmafiaPL,

First things first....Bios upgrade:

Go to soyo's web site, (sounds like you did already) and download the latest bios for your particular motherboard.

If yours is just the ADA board not ADA 1.0 i believe your bios can be found here:
http://www.soyousa.com/downloads/selectresults.php?language=&col1=Proc_AMD+Athlon+XP%2C+T-Bird%2C+Duron&col2=45&col3=BIOS+Upgrade

If it is the 1.0:
http://www.soyousa.com/downloads/selectresults.php?language=&col1=Proc_AMD+Athlon+XP%2C+T-Bird%2C+Duron&col2=147&col3=BIOS+Upgrade

Also download the Awdflash.exe program.  Put both your new bios upgrade as well as the Awdflash on a blank floppy.

Now Flashing it, you should use a Win98 Boot disk, not XP.  You can get a win98 bootdisk from here:

www.bootdisk.com

Download that and create yourself a bootdisk.  
Run the win98 bootdisk, and then when you get to the A:>  Stick in your other disk with the new bios update.  And run the AWDFLASH.EXE file, and make sure you remeber the new bios update name.  Which i believe is this:
Kada2ba5.bin
And follow the directions as you go....I would also suggest downloading the instructions on flashing your bios, in case i missed anything.

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For fan's....I would suggest getting a decent aftermarket heatsink and fan...Here are some decent ones:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=62&manufactory=1463&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

I own the Alpha Pal8045U.  It may be over kill.  But it works great.  Takes a lot of work to put it on tho...that is the only drawback.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=62&manufactory=1333&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1
The coolermaster $18.00 ones and up will work.  Depending on the quality and how much cooling you need will depend on the price you pay.  However the $18.00 one should suffice.

Most of these vantec ones will work great:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=62&manufactory=1453&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

The $17.00 globalwin and up will work:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=62&manufactory=1406&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1


Try those for starters...and let me know how things go...If you have additional questions, since these are now newer questions you may want to open up another question and close and award points for this one.

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i downloaded the windows 98 boot disk and the BIOS upgrade for my SY-k7ada v1.0  After i downloaded the thing into the floppy disks i restarted my computer and i put the floppy in with the win98 in but it said to remove the disk and press any key and then it just loaded to win XP
WakeupSpecialist 1

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try another bootdisk?  Maybe it didnt create a bootable floppy?
Try from here and use the Win98 SE OEM or Custom is fine.

http://www.bootdisk.com/original.htm

See if that does not work for ya.

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that 1 dosent work either but i created a windows Xp boot disk and it got me to the A:> but i wasent sure if i should go on
WakeupSpecialist 1

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Hmmmmm................Doesnt work?  meaning it doesnt bootup?  or you get an error message orrrrrrrrr?

IF winxp bootdisk worked, 98 should have worked....what you can try, is looking at the Win95 boot disk or win me boot disk...try those first before the ME bootdisk...
Let us know how those go first.  One of those hasssssssssss to boot.................
that is strange that it doesnt.

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