Failsafe way to link windows XP to windows98

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I have an internet connection broadband linked to computer (1) which runs win98SE. This computer (1) is linked via network cards and Cat5e cable to Computer (2). When it had windows98Se installed the network/sharing worked perfectly. Now I have removed win XP from computer (2) and installed Windows XP professional. I now cant re-establish the network! What is the sure fire way to connect these two together? I am near to the solution but do not know for sure how to proceed.

Can I leave computer (1) alone for now? Or do I have to re-install on this too?
Should I be able to ping even if there is no network?
Do i have to use the wizards? and ICS? or can it be done manually.
Can i connect a 3rd computer with XP to computer (2)?
Do i have to use administrator on win XP?
Should there be a lmhost file?

{I have previously connected two Win98SE computers together no problem. two static IP address, same subnet mask 255.255.255.0, DNS server address to allow internet connection share successfully}
Thanks
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Top Expert 2004

Commented:
please run ipconfig /all |more on all machines and post here
>Can I leave computer (1) alone for now
yes
>Do i have to use the wizards? and ICS? or can it be done manually
it can be done manually
>Can i connect a 3rd computer with XP to computer (2)?
get a hub or switch
better yet, get a 4 port router/gateway
linksys and d-link make good ones that can be had for around $50 US

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Commented:
Thanks Steve

{COMPUTER (1)}
Windows 98 IP Configuration
        Host Name . . . . . . . . . : DAD-PC
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.48
                                      62.30.112.122
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
        NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : Yes
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
        NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :

        Description . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter

        Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-50-BA-AE-BF-86
        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . :
        Primary WINS Server . . . . :
        Secondary WINS Server . . . :
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

1 Ethernet adapter :
        Description . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter.
        Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-A0-C9-44-A2-5E
        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 62.30.137.65
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . : 62.30.137.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.122
        Primary WINS Server . . . . :
        Secondary WINS Server . . . :
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 11 21 02 4:50:59 PM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 11 22 02 12:43:31 PM

{COMPUTER (2)}

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PENTIUM3
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter connection to downstairs pc:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL813
rnet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-95-31-34
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 168.192.0.2
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.121
Top Expert 2004

Commented:
change the client (this one to)
 this
Ethernet adapter connection to downstairs pc:

       Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
       Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL813
rnet NIC
       Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-95-31-34
       Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
       IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0/2
       Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
       Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
       DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.121 then from a dos prompt (start -->run type cmd to get the prompt)
ping 192.168.0.1
if you get a reply
then
ping 62.30.112.121
if you get a reply, open IE and see if you can surf
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Commented:
steve,

this did not work any more ideas?

The cable is fine as are the cards; (it worked well before with WIN98se on both)

How can I check that the same workgroup is being used?

What about c:indows\host

Top Expert 2004

Commented:
OK, post the results of ipconfig /all from both again please

Author

Commented:
Steve,
thanks for your help.

Since all i changed was the default gateway my ipconfig /all is the same as above except this time the default gateway is as suggested 168.192.0.1

I have a few ideas;
0) My gut feel is we are near the solution. There is something simple we have missed. ie(workgroup/filesharing/computer naming/IP/DNS)
1) Reinstall windows XP
2) Reinstall windows 98se and get back to how it was

I must confess that I am using a pirated copy of Windows XP professional. This does not seem to require activation. But is there some really clever anti-piracy thing going on?

Cheers
Neil B
Top Expert 2004

Commented:
>But is there some really clever anti-piracy thing going on
no
 168.192.0.1
should be 192.168.0.1
from the xp box
pint 127.0.0.1
ping 192.168.0.2
ping 192.168.0.1
post the results here please
Top Expert 2004

Commented:
if just one number is oof, thenit won't work. that is why I wanted youto repost the ipconfig from the xp box, to make sure

Author

Commented:
Hi Steve,

Thanks for your help. It was a simple IP address mistake. 168.192 instead of 192.168

COMPUTER (2) is now networked.

I would really appreciate advice on;

1)I now plan to install WIN XP on COMPUTER (1). To ensure I can regain connectivity and the internet shall I simply make a note of ipconfig /all from COUMPUTER (1) before the re-install and ensure the same exists afterwards?
2) are routers/hubs easy to install/use?

Many thanks, all is good here now.

Neil
Neil B
Top Expert 2004

Commented:
It usually is just one number, have been thru that myself many times *grin*
residential rourers are very easy to install/impliment. I have a d-link 704P
and it was simple, as a matter of fact I recommend going that route. linksys makes a good one, as well as d-link, and I hear the smc barricade is also good. they come with easy to understand manuals. I just recommended one to my dad (75 yrs young, and not a geek by any means)
so can we put this one to bed now? Is everything all set? If so, then accept one of my comments as an answer, and grade it as you see fit. If not, then post more and I'll see what I can do to help
Steve

Author

Commented:
You are a great help, many thanks.

For the time being can I also attach COMPUTER (3) to computer (2) with NIC cards and cable. If so which IP addresses and Subnet mask should I use for the NICs cards in COMPUTER(2) and COMPUTER (3)
If they all the computers are on, theoretically can I access the internet from COMPUTER (3)?!

I will judge your comments and then we can close this case
Thanks
Neil
Top Expert 2004
Commented:
theoritically you should be able to do this, but I have never seen it work. You would have to enable ip routing on #2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315236
(for XP)
for the second NIC on #2
ip address 192.168.0.3
mask 255.255.255.0
gateaway blank
disable wins and dns
and then on #3
ip 192.168.0.4
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.3
enable dns and use the dns ip of your isp
this may or may not work, and may interfere with comp #2 access to the internet, so try it at your own risk

hubs are real cheap (I have seen them for as low as $25)
my advice would be to get one of them, if you want to use ICS
better advice would be to get a home gateway/router
best buy had one by linksys on sale for $50 after rebates this weekend
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