Windows XP Logon loop

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I cannot log into My Coldsteel Administration/Owner account. It appears the logon process is in an infinite loop. It logs into the machine and immediately logs me off. I can log into Guest account. Also, I can boot in safe mode and log into both Administrator and Owner accounts. But in normal mode, I am not able to log into the Owner account. If anybody knows any soultions (except OS resinstallation and System Restore), I will appreciate it.
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PLEASE EMAIL ME SOON

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What software and/or hardwared have you added or remvoed lately.? While in safe mode do a Start > Run msconfig an uncheck everyting from the startup tab. Now see if the problem persisits. If it doesn't one of those programs is the culprit.


The Crazy One

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My system did this to me but it would not allow you into any account, it just kept looping, I finally had to boot to the CD-Rom with an XP disk in it and do a repair from there. I do not know exactly what I done to get this started but I was trying to install Win2000 into a blank partition and on the first reboot after Win2000 was installed was when it went into the "loop mode"
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Try this first

boot to safe mode then run chkdsk /R to replace all files to original values then try to reboot

if it still loops then

boot up into the machine and rename the ntuser.dat file in the offending profile


you could have a corrupted  registry

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fmkjr

Umm I think you mean sfc /scannow which doesn't replace files to their original values but checks that the versions of the files are in sync with the Windows File Protection. :>)

chkdsk is what scandisk is to Win98

Checks a disk and displays a status report.

CHKDSK [volume[[path]filename]]] [/F] [/V] [/R] [/X] [/I] [/C] [/L[:size]]


  volume          Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon),
                  mount point, or volume name.
  filename        FAT only: Specifies the files to check for fragmentation.
  /F              Fixes errors on the disk.
  /V              On FAT/FAT32: Displays the full path and name of every file
                  on the disk.
                  On NTFS: Displays cleanup messages if any.
  /R              Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information
                  (implies /F).
  /L:size         NTFS only:  Changes the log file size to the specified number
                  of kilobytes.  If size is not specified, displays current
                  size.
  /X              Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary.
                  All opened handles to the volume would then be invalid
                  (implies /F).
  /I              NTFS only: Performs a less vigorous check of index entries.
  /C              NTFS only: Skips checking of cycles within the folder
                  structure.

The /I or /C switch reduces the amount of time required to run Chkdsk by
skipping certain checks of the volume.

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Not so chkdsk /r is recovery in xp and will replace all system files as well as win98 style check disk please refernce kb article (unfortunatly i have had to use this twice, after you do this remember to reinstall service pack)


Q229716 Description of the Windows Recovery Console

If this is the case, restart the computer to the Recovery Console, and then use the chkdsk /r command to repair the volume. After you repair the volume, check your hardware to isolate the cause of the file system damage.

To do this, use the following steps:

1.      Start your computer with the Windows startup disks, or with the Windows CD-ROM if your computer can start from the CD-ROM drive.

When the Welcome to Setup screen appears, press R to select the repair option.
If you have a dual-boot or multiple-boot computer, select the Windows installation that you want to access from the Recovery Console.
Type the administrator password when you are prompted to do so.
NOTE: If no administrator password exists, just press ENTER.

At the command prompt, type chkdsk /r, and then press ENTER.
At the command prompt, type exit, and then press ENTER to restart your computer.
For additional information about how to use the Recovery Console in Windows XP, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:

 

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Read what it says, "repair the volume" it looks for inconsistency in the Allocation tables and for bad sectors on the disk. It does not replace any files. It just attempts to move them off of any bad sectors and/or attempts to repair a file if it is corrupted but it does not replace the file.

Note the following says nothing about replacing any files just repair them whick is not the same as replacing the file. SFC is what replaces files. CHKDSK is what scandisk is to Win98

Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058

CHKDSK
chkdsk drive /p /r
The chkdsk command checks the specified drive and, if necessary, repairs or recovers the drive. The command also marks bad sectors and recovers readable information.

You can use these options:
/p : Does an exhaustive check of the drive and corrects any errors.
/r : Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information.
Note that if you specify the /r option, the /p option is implied. Specifying the chkdsk command without arguments checks the current drive, with no options in effect.  

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http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm

Win98

ABOUT CHKDSK

Chkdsk is a utility which checks the computers hard disk drives status for any cross-linked or any additional errors with the hard disk drive.

MS-DOS versions 2.x - 4.x used chkdsk.com
MS-DOS versions 5.x and beyond used chkdsk.exe.

Today it is recommended that you run Scandisk as it is a much more reliable and safe utility then chkdsk.

Checks a disk and displays a status report.

CHKDSK [drive:][[path]filename] [/F] [/V]

[drive:][path]  Specifies the drive and directory to check.
filename Specifies the file(s) to check for fragmentation.
/F Fixes errors on the disk.
/V Displays the full path and name of every file on the disk.

Type CHKDSK without parameters to check the current disk.

Instead of using CHKDSK, try using SCANDISK.  SCANDISK can reliably detect
and fix a much wider range of disk problems.

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Now I am not saying chkdsk may not be of use in this situation but it doesn't do what you think it does. :>)

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it does exactly what i think it does have you used chkdsk /r in the recovery console, have you read any of the kb articles? That is why i sugest it because it WILL replace files on the drive that is WHY YOU MUST HAVE THE CD IN THE DRIVE TO RUN IT AND WHY IT TAKES 2HOURS TO COMPLETE please read and understand things before you confuse people. I have no doubt you understand win98 however xp is a very differnet. I have been supporting XP in a domain since beta and have seen many of the crappy things it does when it goes bad.

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I think you are the one confused again read what it says. It says nothing of replacing files only reparing them. As for it needing the CD please read what it says.

Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058

Running the chkdsk command requires use of the Autochk.exe file. CHKDSK automatically locates this file in the startup folder. If the Command Console was preinstalled, the startup folder is typically the Cmdcons folder. If CHKDSK cannot find Autochk.exe in the startup folder, CHKDSK tries to locate the Windows CD-ROM installation media. If it cannot find the installation media, CHKDSK prompts you for the location of the Autochk.exe file.

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However i have reinstalled Windows xp and now things are getting vary vary ugly...........

Now when i view the internet it lags just when i scroll...

it is getting vary ugly...

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And also i have try's data recovery... Dosint work.....

And will try the info you have provivded me in this message...

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"Try this first

boot to safe mode then run chkdsk /R to replace all files to original values then try to reboot

if it still loops then

boot up into the machine and rename the ntuser.dat file in the offending profile


you could have a corrupted  registry"

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But can you make it ez'er to unstand how to boot up into the machine and rename the ntuser.dat file in the offending profile?

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Thanks And i hope to "GOD" that i get my 54 gigs of Uniqe Files and Priceless info that is dear to me back..

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>>>And also i have try's data recovery... Dosint work.....

Not sure what you mean. What did you try to do specifically?

>>>rename the ntuser.dat file in the offending profile?

If your the file System is NTFS then you won't be able to from the Recovery Console unless you do this.

Set an Automatic Administrator Logon for the Recovery Console
Control Panel >  Administrative > Local Security Policy.
Security Settings > Local Policies > Security Options. Locate the "Recovery Console: Allow automatic administrative logon" policy. Double-click this policy, and then set it to "Enable".

or edit the registry
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole
SecurityLevel (DWORD) 1 = no password, 0 = ask for pass
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Access To All Drives And Folders policy
Control Panel >  Administrative > Local Security Policy.
Security Settings > Local Policies > Security Options. Locate the "Recovery Console: Allow Floppy Copy And Access To All Drives And Folders" policy. Double-click this policy, and then set it to "Enable".

or edit the registry
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole
SetCommand (DWORD) 1 = allow floppy copy etc, 0 = restrict some file
copying

then do this Example:

SET AllowAllPaths = TRUE  

If XP boots which it seems to be from your statement "Now when i view the internet it lags just when i scroll" then create a new user with admin rights assuming your loggon has adming rights and then loggin as that user and then rename that file.

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Also you may be able to gain accesd to change the name of that file by using this

NTFSDOS
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfsdospro.shtml

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>>>Thanks And i hope to "GOD" that i get my 54 gigs of Uniqe Files and Priceless info that is dear to me back..

There are ways to do this.

One if you can put this hard disk as a slave to the other HD into another computer running NT or 2000 or XP and grab your files.

Also if you have a spare HD then pull the current HD from your system and then put the spare drive in as the Master on the Primary IDE. Now install XP. Now reintroduce the other HD back to the system as the slave to the spare HD and recover your files.

Or you can do a parallel install of XP on this current drive. To do this you install XP but you have it install into a different folder, lets say WinXP, rather then in the folder that XP is currently installed in.

One other thing, try using the free diagnostic utility from the vendor of your disk to check for problems with the disk.

www.fujitsu.com 
http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm
www.maxtor.com 
www.seagate.com 
www.wdc.com/service/ftp/drives.html
www.westerndigital.com

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Well i have to wait to see if i can get my files out with another hard drivebut i think thats my only way out of this bull ****!! :(

Author

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At least i found a Q that stummped all the best tech's :/

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BadGus
Maybe because of poor info from the user, I mean if it is plain the user doesn't know what they are doing, then how can we expect that user to explain what the exact problem is.
The thingamabob is cockeyed and then the whatamacallit is stuck.
:>)

or maybe to put this into words you may understand, last week my car wouldn't start, what is wrong with it.
Gee I just stumped some of the best mechanics with my problem.
:>)

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I have said everything to the extent of my knowledge of this error... if i could some how know more about it i could fix it my self.. LOL

But the thing it behave's like a virus... Now "ALL accounts and safe mode are not working properly Not even Dos works...

But i know there is a way Still to get my files from it

It Seems like windows xp has some how scramble'd its own sorce code and deleted parts of it as well... And it was progressing like a real virus....

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Or the hard drive is on the brink of failure. If it is a virus it may be a boot sector virus.

Author

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OK GET THIS!!!!!!

I HAVE JUST USED Wertern Digitall Tools.. to fix my hard drive after it was desplaying a Blue screen or gayniss Every time it booted up.... SO now it dosint do that any more and also....

I have installed DX.9 for my video card...

and when i restarted/retarded my computer it was not looping any more.............

Altho it was logging me off after a hour.... so i it fixed it self i goues when i retarded the computer.

:P
This is surely a strange thing...

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Yeah I have been around a few retarded computers myself. They don't seem to understand logic. :>)

On some of these machnines they get real screwy errors that make no sense. They work when they feel like working and don't respond to conventional repair methods. However they sometimes do understand and respond to a quick slap upside the casing. LOL

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HAHAHAHA yes that iss sooo true :)

but in that "case" i hit it ones and BAM a fan broke :P lol

lounched right by my neck almost killing me LOL o well
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Hehehehehe

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OK IF YOU OR ANY ONE CAN TELL ME HOW TO MAKE DIVX MOVIES WORK AND THE DIVX PLAYER WORK i get a ERROR saying it cant play the AVI but it has a 1000 times befor and now it WONT play them any more but my movies work just fine nothing is wrong with them and also

I have a SAMSUNG SyncMaster 955DF

I need to Install the Drivers and I have the CD and i try to use it but i get a Error saying Some bull**** that dont make any sence...

If you can help me that would kick ass thanks :)

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Is this one question or twenty?
You sure seem at ask alot of questions but fail to accept an answer for any of them.

Author

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thats becouse i answerd my own Quston Smart a$$

So i started over on this one

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And becouse everything they told me didint work

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BadGus
Are you really as "retarded" as you sound?
You answered your own question??

As I read back over the comments I see where Crazy suggested you use the manufactuers utility program which you stated you did and it was fixed. So where does it say you figured it out all by your little self?
You sure are a piece of work.

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LOL, you aren't even smart enough to download a bootdisk from direct links.
Now that is really smart.
BadGus,
Seems we have issues here.  First of all, watch the language.  End of discussion on that matter.  Second, it seems your initial question was answered by an expert.  If you need more help, accept the experts comment as an answer and ask another question

Computer101
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I opologize for my off topic comments.
Ray,
Your comment was acceptable, the comment from BadGus after that is when it started going down hill.  BadGus and I will resolve this.  Anymore outbursts of this type by BadGus will be handled accordingly.

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Computer101   ME "Badgus" answer the qustion and it worked my way...... none of the experts could figure out the problem thus i cannot give points to me self i will have to give points to some one who can answer a quistion other than the one i have alreaddy answerd

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I gave you the points i dont want to give them to any one else becouse they dont know jack
Seems this is a waste to keep in PAQ.  BadGus, I do not know the best way to say this so I will be blunt.  If you knew how to ask for and accept help, life would be easier.  Your interpersonal communication skills are less than desirable and I do not think that with that attitude, you will get very much advice from the great experts on this site.  Your approach to those that try to help leaves experts with no alternative but to not assist on the future.  

You do not have to make a comment here because you would just think it is a waste of your time and if it just a flame you post, it is a waste of mine.

If no objections from the experts, this question will be deleted in 72 hours.

btw, I do know jack and he is alot nicer than you.

Computer101
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C101 I think there is some valuable info in this Q regardless of how the thread detrioted.
Noted and thanks,

recommendation,

place in PAQ, useless comments deleted.

Computer101

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No objection to the deletion of ALL my comments

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CrazyOne... yes sence you did try to help me fix my nasty and almost satanic error Within My OS... and i do thank you for it...

But how on earth did this all happin?? first i tryd to make new question so i raised the points 100 more .. and asked a new Question.

I did this becouse My friend truly fixed my hard drive

The #3jj with it...  im glad you have the points becouse you helped 999999999999999999999999999999999999999%
more then
"ComputerMalfunction001"
"rayt666"

Thanks again :)

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