bug in MS photo editor crashes when printing a jpg file

Prints fine (on PostScript printer to file:) on W2K with Photo Editor 3.01 (from Off 97).

How about if you load into PSP etc. and save out as a JPG again.  Sounds like an illegal or corrupt JPEG file which maybe IE allows but other progs barf on.

See how others go with it...

Steve

It also locked my Photo Editor (XP with Office XP and fully patched.)  I opened it in PhotoShop and re-saved it as a jpg with a file size of 34.4 KB  - It now prints fine.
You can download it here to test: http://www.tekmasters.com/images/ships11.jpg

Sounds like dragon-it is 100% correct :)

shekerra and dragon-it:
thank your for your input.
as you know, I already have a work around (save as bmp using PhotoEditor). Saving it as a jpg does not seem to help.
You would imagine the if the file is OK enough to be displayed by Photo Editor, I could be printed...
At the same time, if it is corrupted, a message would be nice, not 99% CPU.
I sent this info to MS's bug report page a few weeks ago and no response, of course.
I am hoping for a fix (a registry setting, a patch, a switch) Any additional insights?

I've been looking for a JPEG checker to see if it can see any "illegal bits" in a file.... but haven't found anything yet...

The fact that it works in earlier versions (ie. my Off 97 version) kinda suggests an introduced bug or an intolerance to  something that was fine before...

I'll have a dig later!

Steve

dragon-it:
That's a great idea.
It is good to know it did not crash on 97 too.
How big is the exe?
It could be just one DLL.
I wonder which DLL's does it use.

Why don't you repair your office installation and see if that helps?  Just go to help menu in word or excel and click on detect & repair.

shekerra,

Would be fair enough except its happening on various machines ... including yours isn't it?!

Got nowhere finding any JPEG checkers.
Photo Editor on mine is:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\PhotoEd\*.*
PHOTOED.EXE     all v3.01
1033\PEINTL.DLL
WATERCOL.DLL
TEXTURIZ.DLL
STAMP.DLL
STAINEDG.DLL
NOTEPAPE.DLL
GRAPHICP.DLL
EMBOSS.DLL
CHALKCHA.DLL
PHOTOED.HLP
PHOTOED.CNT (internationalised descriptions)
PHOTOED.SRG (registry entries)

so realistically it probably only needs PHOTOED.EXE and maybe PEINTL.DLL as the other DLL's are obviously the effects...  size of all of it is 1.8Mb.

Quite willing to ZIP up the directory to save you finding an Office 97 machine if you want to try it...

Steve

dragon-it:
my photoed.exe is v 3.0.1.1 (c) 2000 5/3/2000
most likely office 2K.
can you post your exe?

OK zipped directory is in

http://www.dragon-it.co.uk/ee/eefiles.htm

Let us know when you have it... not really on to leave copyrighted material around on my website for the spiders to find...

I suppose at least (if that works) it would prove it is the later versions of Photo Editor that doesn't like the JPEG for some reason and not anything else unrelated on those machines.  Not a lot else mind!

Steve

dragon-it:
thank you.
tried it.
Froze!
Makes no sense. Maybe be dll related to printing?
I wonder if it will work for shekerra.
www.digitalforces.com/photoed.zip has mine.
does it work for you?

Hmm, the above ZIP is the same files as I sent you... are they the ones off your machine?

Just tried the image on W2K (Sp2) and a freshly installed Office 2000 (no SP) on amachine that didn't have Office before and still OK.... version of Photo Editor is 3.01 6/3/1999

In that case it was printed to a HP laserjet 4 driver to FILE: since it isn't on the network... might be worth trying a basic print driver like that aswell?

Maybe it is the Office XP (or just later Of 2000 SP) version you have there?

Weird - not like it matters /that/ much either of course but it would be nice to know why, wouldn't it!

Steve

The download didn't do it.  I am frozen with the new application.  I will bet that I would be able to print this on our 8100 at work though.  I only have a DJ 855C here.

shekerra:
Let me know.
dragon-it:
sorry. I now posted the 2000 version of PhotoEd.EXE www.digitalforces.com/photoed.zip
let me know.

Fraid that works fine too here!

W2K(Sp3), Office 97 installed, your PhotoEd 3.1.1 and original file... IE5.5 in case that matters!

Steve

must be a dll or registry setting.

True. Can't find any related bugs mentioned with PE ... strange isn't it!

Ummm what printers are you all using?

Let's all compare this registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Microsoft Photo Editor
Maybe someone has something a little different?

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Conversion]
"Smooth"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Crop]
"Corner1"=dword:00000000
"Corner2"=dword:00000000
"Corner3"=dword:00000000
"Corner4"=dword:00000000
"SquareOrRound"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\File Options]
"JPEG Compression"=dword:0000005a
"Path"="C:\\Documents and Settings\\bev.TECH4USERVICES\\Desktop"
"MRUExportType"=dword:00000001
"MRUImportType"=dword:00000007

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Microsoft Photo Editor]
"LastFile1"="C:\\Documents and Settings\\bev.TECH4USERVICES\\Local Settings\\Temporary Internet Files\\OLK13A\\image0013.jpg"
"LastType1"="jpg"
"InitialPosition"=" 34,  74,  1027,  733, "
"StatusBar"="1"
"RepaintBg"="1"
"ProgressRate"="200"
"BackColor"=" 0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0, "
"Show"="1"
"MDIMAX"="1"
"LastFile2"="C:\\Documents and Settings\\bev.TECH4USERVICES\\Desktop\\ships11.jpg"
"LastType2"="jpg"
"Picture Type"=dword:00000003
"Picture Width"=dword:00000384
"Picture Height"=dword:000001f4
"Picture Dpi"=dword:00000064

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Print]
"Orientation"=dword:00000000
"Print Quality"=dword:0000012c

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Rotate]
"Angle"=dword:0000002d
"Origin"=dword:00000000
"Function"=dword:00000071

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Tool Bar]
"Visible"=dword:00000006
"left"=dword:00000026
"top"=dword:00000075

OK, don't think there is much there that it could be but here's mine:

For the record I have successfully printed using OKI 600ex (HP laserjte IIp), Laserjet 4, and Apple Laserwriter (PS) drivers (some to file:).  Can't get it to crash on Win98, Win2K using Off 97, and /or Off 2k.

Steve

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-527237240-764733703-854245398-1000\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0]

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-527237240-764733703-854245398-1000\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\File Options]
"JPEG Compression"=dword:0000005a
"Path"="C:\\"
"MRUExportType"=dword:00000003
"MRUImportType"=dword:00000008

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-527237240-764733703-854245398-1000\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Filter]
"SharpenStrength"=dword:00000005

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-527237240-764733703-854245398-1000\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Microsoft Photo Editor]
"LastFile1"="C:\\ships11.jpg"
"LastType1"="jpg"
"InitialPosition"=" 271,  25,  580,  734, "
"StatusBar"="1"
"RepaintBg"="1"
"ProgressRate"="200"
"BackColor"=" 0,  0,  0,  0,  0,  0, "
"Show"="3"
"MDIMAX"="1"
"LastFile2"=""
"LastType2"=""
"LastFile3"=""
"LastType3"=""
"LastFile4"=""
"LastType4"=""

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-527237240-764733703-854245398-1000\Software\Microsoft\Photo Editor\3.0\Tool Bar]
"Visible"=dword:00000006
"left"=dword:00000000
"top"=dword:00000027

If I right-click and copy from http://www.digitalforces.com/ships11.jpg and open photoed and select edit | paste as new image.  There is no problem with printing...
If I do anything else - it eats up 99% of my CPU

I can also open ships11 in PE - select all | copy  | paste as new image - no problem...

I'll try it from a new net. of W2K PC's put in on a client site when I go there Wednesday - that's W2K SP2, Office XP (no SP unless they have rolled it without me...) and see if I can make it crash... and if so what does it!

Steve

I'll try it from a new net. of W2K PC's put in on a client site when I go there Wednesday - that's W2K SP2, Office XP (no SP unless they have rolled it without me...) and see if I can make it crash... and if so what does it!

Steve

This is on XP SP1 - all updates/Office XP all sp updates.
I am quite boggled.  It almost appears to behave like a memory leak for the initial 'normal way of printing.'  But when pasted as 'new image' it prints instantly...

On customer site today.... just tried it on their W2K SP2, Office XP (no SP) Photo Editor.... V 3.0.2.3. Guess what, no crash :-)  I don't suppose you could email the file to the address in my profile in case the way I am downloading is "fixing" the file in some way -- Right click on Link -> Save As is what I've done..

Date & Time of photoed.exe i 15-12-2000, 790,528 bytes.  Will take a copy home in case you want to try it... but I am getting the feeling it is something else completely?

That was to a RICOH Aficio high-end copier/printer (as made here!) and a LexMark laser...

Steve

I do think the save AS can make a difference.
I posted it now as www.digitalforces.com/ships11.zip
shekerra:
what method did you use to keep the file 'as pure as possible' (the one that crashes photoed)?

I just did a right-click on the link provided (saved to desktop) - inserted and mailed.

I do think the save AS can make a difference.
I posted it now as www.digitalforces.com/ships11.zip
shekerra:
what method did you use to keep the file 'as pure as possible' (the one that crashes photoed)?

I do think the save AS can make a difference.
I posted it now as www.digitalforces.com/ships11.zip
shekerra:
what method did you use to keep the file 'as pure as possible' (the one that crashes photoed)?

Hi guys,

The one emailed to me also /doesn't/ crash on my Office 97 here (from bev..., I presume it was you!)....  

Steve

Yes Steve it was me :)

ZIP file... same lark.  No crash!!  Must be pritner driver related?  Did you have any look with generic drivers -> FILE:?

Steve

The problem is related to the printer.
When I click File/Print, it crashes.
I changed the default system printer from HP 1100 to Generic/Text.
It now allows me to open the print dialog, and to print (I printed to file to avoid the 300 pages with one heart on each of them)
However, it seems epidemic.  It also crashes with the following W2K standard drivers:
OKIDATA 310 MS on FILE:
HP LaserJet 4/4M PS (postcript) on FILE:
HP LaserJet 4L/4M PS (postcript) on FILE:

dragon-it:
Can you test with either of the above?

Hi,

Haven't got OKIDATA 310MS available in my list but:

HP LJ 4/4M PS driver (standard W2K) : OK still
HP Laserjet 1100 (MS) driver: OK (we have this printer)

Only thing I did notice was the size shows up as 0.30 x 0.24cm in the print dialog box but it still works if I print this size or fit to page etc....

Getting a long way but at the same time absolutely nowhere...

Steve

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Well I would have suggested splitting between the two persons assisting with andyrosa's question ...

I agree with dragon-it but yensidmod determined otherwise :)