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Hello:

I am unable to open a 5-year old legitimate game-type free computer program downloadable from the TVLand website.  It worked on my Windows 95, and I think Windows 98, as well.  It is a simple but amusing Mister Ed the Psychic Ask the Soothsaying Horse game.  The program, still available today in both Windows and Mac, downloads but the Win files won't open from the Zip-It self-extracter on my 2000 system.  (Another friend today also had the same dead-end.)

If this a 16 vs. 32-bit problem, is there any easy way to get it to work?  No one is supporting the page, as it is very outdated (years) and probably forgotten.  I have no idea of the author and I am unable to read the url; although I can insert it into email via the aol "favorite places" heart icon.  Don't see the url in temporary internet files, either.  

This is a very charming little game that I would very much like to have back for its nostalgia value.  Thank you in advance for any help with this issue.

Catherine
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by:Chadak
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Hi catherine!

   can you give the link to downlaod the game? ill give a try with it!
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by:Catherine_B
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Thank you very much, Chadak.  As I tried to explain above, the url is not visible (it's an aol link, so has the typical annoying restrictions), but if you email or IM me at catb7567@aol.com, I will reply to you with the link enclosed.  That's the only way I know to do it; if you simply copy aol's 'favorites' icon, the hyperlink does not travel with it - it will only insert into email or an IM!  I'll be online for hours yet tonight and will look out for you.  

Alternatively, upon rollover, here is the link alt text:  "aol://4344:1176.lisaed.3548048.542728895/" (no quotes).  I was unable to access that address using several different prefix combinations, but maybe you can.  I have definitely typed it in correctly.  The actual link works like a charm, however.  I appreciate your effort!
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by:ppainter
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What error message appears when you try to run it?
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by:Catherine_B
ID: 8031361
Dear ppainter:  The file just seem to lay there, unzipped, in what looks like a small dos screen. I would be glad to send you the actual online link, if you like, if you email me (above).  Thanks very much for your interest!
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by:viralTempest
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Not to dampen your spirits Catherine_B, but if it's a WinZip archive and it shows a DOS window, that means one of 2 things:

The file was saved with a .EXE extension instead of .ZIP

OR

The file was improperly downloaded/file is corrupt


Some steps to try:

Reboot and try to run the file.

Try renaming the file to "whatever.ZIP", just make sure that you have the Show File Extensions option on first. No clue how to turn it on in Win2k though (sorry).

If that doesn't work, re-install WinZip or try to extract the files with another program. WinRAR can read WinZip archives, but it can go unstable if it's a large archive.

If none of that works, try all those steps again after re-downloading the file.

If it STILL doesn't work, then the file/archive probably isn't compatible with Win2k. All I can say is to try it on a machine with Win9x as a primary OS.


Good luck!
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by:viralTempest
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Also a tip: if you don't have antivirus software, get some. It's unlikely, but possible, that a hacker could have redirected the link to download a a chunck of malicious code that's named after your program. I don't mean to scare you, but it has happened before.

If your antivirus program is up-to-date, you should be fine.
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by:Catherine_B
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Dear viralTempest:  Thank you very much for your suggestions.  I sent the two folks above the program, and I guess they couldn't get it open, either.  My own computer guru suggested it was a 16vs32 bit issue.  Both the current link and the old exe file I had saved on my computer from before the crash fail in the same manner.  The downloaded file is indeed an exe file, not a zip, with apparently a self-extractor accompanying it.  At any rate, it worked like a charm on the old Win 98, so I'm reluctantly accepting it must be just plain incompatible.  I was just hoping that someone could "make" it work or have a workaround for me.  Thank you again for trying to help.
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Catherine_B, the file never arrived.  I had sent you a reply saying so, but I hadn't heard from you again.  Perhaps AOL doesn't allow you to send attachments?  I'm not too familiar with their service.
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by:Catherine_B
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Dear ppainter:  I did resend it and will do so again now!  Thank you!
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by:Catherine_B
ID: 8160810
Dear ppainter:  You should have the actual link as well as the downloadable attachment (which I cc'd to myself to test it) waiting for you at the email address you supplied to me.  I hope you can make it work and will stay tuned!
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by:viralTempest
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Oooh i have an idea! I run Win XP and theres an "Emulator" for different versions of Windows. I'm fairly certain that Windows 2K has a scaled down version too, but not as reliable. Anyways, right-click (or left-click if you're a lefty) on the file and click on Properties. Dig around in there for a Compatability box; it should actually be a tab. Check the box labeled "Run this program in compatability mode for..." and from the drop-down menu that's now available select Windows 98/ME or Windows 95, whichever you perfer. I know that not all builds of Win2K have the emulator, but it's possible that, if you have it, that it could just make your program run.

Good luck
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by:Catherine_B
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Dear vT:  Well, drat the luck, don't I just wish that would work!  My tabs on this Win 2000 Prof are only general, security and summary (with all rights, etc./that's not the problem).  I'll take it on a zip and try your suggestion on an XP system at the school this upcoming weekend and will post the outcome.  

The compressed program file is only 1.36MB, but I am unable to successfully send it as an attachment for some reason through AOL (I thought the limit was 2MB). I opened a Hotmail account which has a 2MB limit, and that wouldn't work either.  So ppainter above was unable to receive the file or the link, either, as apparently those AOL "heart icon favorite places" don't carry across to his ISP.

At this point I don't know how to get it to anybody over the internet so they can try to make it work.  *If you know, please advise*.  (Maybe I'm going to have to just rewrite from scratch in Flash, but it wouldn't be as polished).

Thank you so much for trying!  I just cannot believe this is so difficult as to be unresolvable what with all the brains and expertise that I'm sure are traveling on this board.
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by:viralTempest
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Well, Hotmail only allows 1MB attachments, but if you can get it to me, I have XP Corporate and could maybe try extracting the file for you with my emulator. I don't want any auto-spammers getting hold of my e-mail, so I'll spell it out with words, what I mean is just take the first letter of every word before the @ sign to get my email:

Paris, Espilon, Nova, Windsor, Espilon, Lima, Espilon, Juliet @student.ednet.ns.ca

Maybe you could try making a web page on Geocities or Angelfire that you could store the file on. Just create an account, upload the program and quickly make a page consisting of a link to the file. I don't know Geocities' address, all I know is that it's part of Yahoo (www.yahoo.com). Angelfire is at www.angelfire.com. Then just create a comment with the URL.

Well, good luck with the school idea. If it doesn't work, just get me the file and I'll try a bit of re-coding on the extractor. (This seems to be turning into a question that should be under VB Programming)

If there's any major spelling errors, it's because the only reason I'm awake is an unhealthy amount of caffeine.
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by:Catherine_B
ID: 8205258
Happy Ending!  

I am pleased to report that once I was finally able to get the file attachment to ppainter, he was quickly able to get the file running and kindly sent me a valid zipped file that now runs on my Windows 2000 system!

I appreciate the efforts of those who tried to help.  Many thanks!

(This is my first time here, but I will click on a ppainter entry above to get him his points, and I hope he gets the credit he deserves.)

~ Catherine
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by:Catherine_B
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I am grateful to ppainter for having the tenacity to stick with me and help me get the faulty file to him so he could make it work for me.  His persistence paid off to my benefit.  Well done!
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by:ppainter
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You're very welcome.  Enjoy Mr. Ed's wisdom!  :)
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by:viralTempest
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Ah poop, my comp goes down for a week and the (digital) world changes even faster than usual. I got the Mr. Ed file and the emulator worked fine, but you already have a working copy. Anyway, enjoy! Good job ppainter!
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