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Installing a Printer on Router-Separated Network

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Hi !

My question is based on the following scenario.

I have a workgroup in Win2K, I also have a Router which provides IPs to 4 computers under it.

Now, I want those computers(served by the Router) to be able to access the workgroup (essentially the print and backup services).

JetDirect is not what I am looking for as solution, as I am already using a jetDirect port for one of the printers. I am concerned about the printer which doesn't have JetDirect capability.

I appreciate your taking time to read the lengthy quest. I wrote everything just to avoid confusion and be precise about the problem.

Thank You all,
Have a good one.
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read this article. setting up a tcp/ip port on your printer should allow you to accomplish what you want to do.

http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=277&pg=1
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Thank you night monkey,

but It still doesn't work cuz my router doesn't detect the IP addressed outside the router n/w.

remedies ?

tia,
Nehal
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but, My router doesn't let me connect to the printer which is outside the router n/w.

what should i do ?

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are you still having problems, or is everything ok? if you are still working on it, maybe you need to configure a static route in your router for your printer. are you having any trouble seeing computers through the router?
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Hi night monkey,

Yes, I do still have problems.

I have 4 computers connected to the router and the print server is on the outside network. I tried making an LPR port and printing thru TCP/IP, but I don't seem to be getting it.

Also, i don't think its a Routing ot Firewall problem. because, I can print to a JetDirect printer via all 4 computers (which are connected to the router).

Please hel me !

TIA,
Nehal
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what kind of printer is it? are you sure it's capable of tcp/ip printing?
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Its an HP 1120C and right now is connected to LPT port of a comp.

I am sure that there must be some way of redirecting the TCP/IP to LPT port in win2k. just thinking out loud.

thank you, man ! I appreciate your help.
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this might seem asinine, but have you just tried sharing the printer from the machine it's connected to? i'm assuming you're using a microsoft operating system.

here's an article from hp that might help.

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?lc=en&docName=bpd05457

let's go back to the basics for a second before we go ahead.
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yes, the printer is shared and at least 15 other machines can print to it with no problems at all.

I don't have jet direct EX port and woul not be able to buy on(not in my hands). WE already have one JetDirect printer installed and working well. This one is an LPT Printer. I want a redirect from TCP/IP Port to this printer.

Boss is looking for a free solution. Please help.
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actually, i'm not sure how to do it, but maybe sharing the printer won't work for the printers on the other side of the router until that router is configured to pass netbios/netbeui traffic...

also, please clarify these statements so that i can understand better what you meant:

"but It still doesn't work cuz my router doesn't detect the IP addressed outside the router n/w."

"but, My router doesn't let me connect to the printer which is outside the router n/w."
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Explanations:

Let me use IP addresses, to explain it better.

xxx.yyy.---.--- is the address of my router. Under the router are 4 computers.

xxx.yyy.+++.+++ is my rest of the IP address' format, the samel evel as network.

The four computers under the router are ...

aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd and can see the JetDirect Port installed on xxx.yyy.+++.+++ IP address, also they can print successfully to it.

My real problem is a parallel printer installed on xxx.yyy.+++.+++ type IP address. I want to print to this printer from aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd computer.

I am not supposed to buy anything from the market for this purpose.

Also, I do not have much of the practical knowledge about routers, so please let me know how to set it up so that it lets pass NETBEUI/NETBIOS traffic. I went thru the whole manual and the configuration page that the router shows in the Browser. It didn't help, yet.

I appreciate your help.

Thank You

 
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what kind of a router is it (brand/model)?
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Linksys / BEFSR41

Tx
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do you know how to create lmhosts files? this moght be our solution here. here are instructions on how to create one:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314108

the lmhosts files should be placed on the machines that you want to be able to print to the other side of the router (and vice versa, just to be safe).

the lmhosts file should contain information on the pc that you have shared the printer from.

read the article, give this a shot and let me know how it goes.

good luck, man.

-nightmonkey
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This is too techie, I am not a n/w pro and donno how to find out PDC name. There are no domains in my network, we have workgroups, rather.

LMHOSTS are tough, man ! I am figuring it out.
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here, maybe this will help you out some more.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=101927

you can still setup and use an lmhosts file if you're not in a domain environment.

here's a sample of what the contents will look like from the link above:

Sample Lmhosts File

142.25.125.15 Joe #PRE
129.102.12.10 Paul #PRE
148.107.16.45 James
135.25.25.14 Eric #PRE
133.120.26.225 John
192.36.14.250 Ed #PRE
221.250.05.126 Mackey

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It can successfully spool the data, shows

230Kb/230kb, but doesn't print.

I have written the file just as you gave the xample.

tx
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Do I need to restart my computer ? I think so, cuz, its Windows ... as usual.

will try
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yes, restart.
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