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Win2K server invisible on workgroup additive question: service removal
Hi! I'm a newbie in networking, and as I had the same problem as Matt:
"Title: Win2K server invisible on workgroup
From: Ma77
Date: 01/02/2003 12:53PM PST
Status: Waiting for Answer
Points: 330 "
who couldn't have Machine A properly share its files with Machine B, I supposed someone would be helpfull in this forum.
My configuration is (A)one PIII 600 with Win2K, (B)one laptop PII 360, a Realteak RTL8139 network adapter, a Netgear 614 router, and a Visnetic Firewall (turning it off or on won't change a thing).
I ended up doing the safe mode including network solution Matt provides in his last post. I actually found out Machine A would finally work on the workgroup, and share its files with Machine B, but only in this safe mode as confirmed by Matt:
"Here is a test that everyone should try that is having this problem:
Reboot your PC, hit F8 and select Safe Mode with Network.
If the PC appears on the network, then there is a program or service that is blocking network access.
After confirming this, I removed all programs from my startup folder and used the MSCONFIG utility to disable all "Registry Startup" programs. Still had the problem.
Then I went to the list of services. There, tucked in among the 40 services I was running was "PC-cillin PersonalFirewall".
I never even knew that I had installed a firewall. It was only when I restarted in "Safe Mode with Network" that I was able to track down the problem."
But as far as I'm concern, I don't see anything like a firewall in the service. Only few services I don't see the use of (WMDM PMSP Service, SNMP Service, Ray Server but I've uninstalled Lightwave/Softimage, and the Netware client service I don't have on the Machine B which works great on any other network).
And here is my question: I tried to remove selectively from Machine A some of the services I mentionned above, so it matches the service fonctions on Machine B, but still, I have the same message appearing whenaver I try to reach Workgroup on A(not available). Which service could be the cause of the problem?
I really don't know what to do.
Could anybody help me out?
I've putted all of my beginner's available points on this one!
"Title: Win2K server invisible on workgroup
From: Ma77
Date: 01/02/2003 12:53PM PST
Status: Waiting for Answer
Points: 330 "
who couldn't have Machine A properly share its files with Machine B, I supposed someone would be helpfull in this forum.
My configuration is (A)one PIII 600 with Win2K, (B)one laptop PII 360, a Realteak RTL8139 network adapter, a Netgear 614 router, and a Visnetic Firewall (turning it off or on won't change a thing).
I ended up doing the safe mode including network solution Matt provides in his last post. I actually found out Machine A would finally work on the workgroup, and share its files with Machine B, but only in this safe mode as confirmed by Matt:
"Here is a test that everyone should try that is having this problem:
Reboot your PC, hit F8 and select Safe Mode with Network.
If the PC appears on the network, then there is a program or service that is blocking network access.
After confirming this, I removed all programs from my startup folder and used the MSCONFIG utility to disable all "Registry Startup" programs. Still had the problem.
Then I went to the list of services. There, tucked in among the 40 services I was running was "PC-cillin PersonalFirewall".
I never even knew that I had installed a firewall. It was only when I restarted in "Safe Mode with Network" that I was able to track down the problem."
But as far as I'm concern, I don't see anything like a firewall in the service. Only few services I don't see the use of (WMDM PMSP Service, SNMP Service, Ray Server but I've uninstalled Lightwave/Softimage, and the Netware client service I don't have on the Machine B which works great on any other network).
And here is my question: I tried to remove selectively from Machine A some of the services I mentionned above, so it matches the service fonctions on Machine B, but still, I have the same message appearing whenaver I try to reach Workgroup on A(not available). Which service could be the cause of the problem?
I really don't know what to do.
Could anybody help me out?
I've putted all of my beginner's available points on this one!
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It finally worked !
It wasn't a virus problem (I've got the latest anti-virus updated from Kaspersky), but actually a NIC Driver update problem (though it was reinstalled by Win2K last week, with SP3 update done already). I didn't know, since WIn2K recognize the card and had the proper driver, that it could be the problem but it obviously was. I was mislead by the fact that the LAN Network would work with the safe mode like Matt experienced. But you were clever enough not to fall in the same hole I was in!
I found the download pages for the driver at:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads1-3.aspx?series=16&Software=True
if anybody is interested...
And it's a good point I could get startcop anyway cause I had other few startup application cleaning to make.
So you were definitly of a great help and I'll say you deserve hall of fame (for quick reply too). I'm happy to give you all my points, with the A indeed. But how do we do that (the grading I mean). Community? Thanks again and good night SysExpert.
It finally worked !
It wasn't a virus problem (I've got the latest anti-virus updated from Kaspersky), but actually a NIC Driver update problem (though it was reinstalled by Win2K last week, with SP3 update done already). I didn't know, since WIn2K recognize the card and had the proper driver, that it could be the problem but it obviously was. I was mislead by the fact that the LAN Network would work with the safe mode like Matt experienced. But you were clever enough not to fall in the same hole I was in!
I found the download pages for the driver at:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads1-3.aspx?series=16&Software=True
if anybody is interested...
And it's a good point I could get startcop anyway cause I had other few startup application cleaning to make.
So you were definitly of a great help and I'll say you deserve hall of fame (for quick reply too). I'm happy to give you all my points, with the A indeed. But how do we do that (the grading I mean). Community? Thanks again and good night SysExpert.
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It finally worked !
It wasn't a virus problem (I've got the latest anti-virus updated from Kaspersky), but actually a NIC Driver update problem (though it was reinstalled by Win2K last week, with SP3 update done already). I didn't know, since WIn2K recognize the card and had the proper driver, that it could be the problem but it obviously was. I was mislead by the fact that the LAN Network would work with the safe mode like Matt experienced. But you were clever enough not to fall in the same hole I was in!
I found the download pages for the driver at:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads1-3.aspx?series=16&Software=True
if anybody is interested...
And it's a good point I could get startcop anyway cause I had other few startup application cleaning to make.
So you were definitly of a great help and I'll say you deserve hall of fame (for quick reply too). I'm happy to give you all my points, with the A indeed. But how do we do that (the grading I mean). Community? Thanks again and good night SysExpert.