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HI, I've NT4 on 18GB-SCSI-HDD. I'm try to install wireless network. Only thing wireless network is not compatible with NT4, so I want to convert my hard drive from NT4 to WIN2000 without losing any data. Please advise.. Thanks, Paul
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by:andyalder
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Just boot from the win2000 CD and run an upgrade. Make sure that NT4 is at a recent servicepack first.
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by:SunBow
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Backup data
Boot Install CD
Delete partitions
Create one partition, entire disk
Lay down OS there
Restore Data
Done
(first and last steps are not necessary, since no mention made of there being any critical data not backed up)
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by:heskyttberg
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Hi!

Just whetever you do don't upgrade NT.

You can install WinXP on same partition, but even that is somewhat bad, but don't upgrade, you will get very poor performance.

Regards
/Hans - Erik Skyttberg
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by:FishMonger
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Andyalder's suggestion of upgrading is the quickest and probably the easiest method but not the best.  I recommend following SunBow's suggestion, which in brief describes a clean install.  In my opinion, upgrading applications is perfectly expectable but not OS's, especially if it's a server (which yours may not be).
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by:kmorris1186
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I have Upgraded my NT4 Enterprise Edition server to 2000 Advanced Server with no problems.  I think it mainly just depends on what programs you have installed.  Everything ran fine after the upgrade except my Compaq Software.

System Specs:
Compaq Prolient 300
Dual PPro 200Mhz each
256 ECC EDO
36Gb SCSI Seagate Cheetah

(yeah its old, except the HD.. got it from work.)

Is you computer a WORK VITAL computer? if so... i would say Clean install... But if you can take it down for a day or two to upgrade to 2K and see how it runs. go for it.. i didnt have any problems.

But a Clean install is the most reliable way to go.
you will have TONS less problems..

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by:koolmike
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although a clean install is better, if you have to upgrade then its probibly a good idea to have as little installed as possible whilest doing it.

1. Backup your data
2. uninstall all of the programs
3. upgrade to 2000
4. re-install programs
5. restore data
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by:koolmike
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Also, if you want a wireless network then you dont need to have a wirless card in the server, so you can keep NT4 if you want, you just need hardware to bridge the wired LAN and wireless LAN (better to just make new devices wirless instead of upgrading the whole lot)
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by:msa2003
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Windows NT 4.0 uses NTFS4 up to Service Pack 4. Windows NT SP5 and SP6, Windows 2000 (Windows NT 5.0) and Windows XP (Windows NT 5.1) uses NTFS5. If you had set up SP5 or SP6 on your XP system your drive is already in "Win2000" format!!! NTFS conversion from version 4 and version 5 is performed automatically when you install SP5 or SP6 or when you upgrade to Windows 2000/XP. There is no matter what type of drive interface you use, SCSI or IDE. Of course, if you did not setup SP5/6 before and you are afraid of your data loss you can backyp your data, but there is no need to format/repartition your drive!

What about clean install. If you do not experience problems with your current installation, you do not need clear install. Upgrading to Win2000 you will save all of your configuration data. When there are some problems? of course, this is better to make a clear install. DO NOT DELETE ANY DATA and DO NOT FORMAT A DRIVE, just install Win2000 INTO THE DIFFERENT FOLDER, for example, WIN2000 instead of WINNT. After you'll see that Win2000 works OK and you are already configured it, you might delete the previous version (WINNT folder). Do not care about Program Files folder, all files in this folder will be replaced with a never files after you will reinstall software.

Do not forget to backup WINNT\Profiles folder which contains user data!!!

Best regards, msa2003
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by:msa2003
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Sorry for my terrible English...
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by:FishMonger
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Since formatting the HD is the only step left out, msa2003's suggestion of just installing 2000 in a new directory is unofficially called a "nondestructive clean install."  This method will also configure your system to dual boot between NT and 2000.  You still will need to reinstall all your applications.  Also all of your documents are still owned by the NT user accounts (SID's), so you'll need to take ownership of them with the W2K user account(s).

I have more info and recommendations but I'm being called away from the computer so, I'll come back with the rest of the info when I can.
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by:msa2003
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If you do not need dual boot you can just edit c:\boot.ini file either manually or through MMC. The only thing I do not agree with FishMonger is that such installation inherith user data. Uder data (i. e. WINNT\Profiles path) is NOT inherited this way so you need to move this data to Documents and settings folder manually. Probably you will need only in My Documents and Desktop folders. But it could be necessary sometimes to look Application Data folders for some important settings (such as MS Office templates). Of course you do not need to save TEMP and Temporary Internet Files folders, so on... ;)

Allthrough I suggest you first to try to make upgrade to Win2000. I agree with FishMonger that clean install is better for system's stability (as I described later), but it significantly decreases a risk of important configuration data loss, such as user accounts (they will be moved to 'Users' OU) IIS or routing configs. The next, if you will experience problems with productivity/stability of the upgraded system, you could allwais perform "Clear install".

Avoid drive formatting but note that NTFS bugs are cumulative, so you need to have a good disk-fixing software on the case of disk errors.
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by:andyalder
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This has just about as much to do with storage as my arse has to do with beautiful. Notif off.
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by:msa2003
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andyalder: much to read or much to do ;) ? Did you ever read a question?
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by:FishMonger
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Andyalder, you were the first person to respond to this thread and your answer had as much to do with storage as any of the rest of the posts.  So, why did you post in the first place?  As the thread progresses, the rest of us are filling in the details that you left out and we're including additional related info that Paul may want to know.  Apparently, you don't believe that a person should have the amount of info needed to make an informed decision!

If you don't want to receive additional notices on this thread, then click on unsubscribe.
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