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ASUS V8420 ti4200 problems

Posted on 2003-03-03
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My system

AMD Athlon XP 2000+
512MB PC2700 DDR
ASUS A78VX Motherboard
ASUS V8420 Ti4200 128MB Graphic card
IDE 40gig HDD + 9gig Atlas 10k II SCSI

The problem occurs when running heavy graphics such as 3D mark 03 or Unreal II

The system randomly bluescreens and before i can read it it restarts.

I have big variable fans which are supposed to outperform big deltas, i have cranked them up so i am v sure its not heat, MOBO is 28 C CPU is 38-42C

I have tried with dirext x 8.1 and 9

I have tried original and new drivers from both nvidia and ASUS.

I have installed windows XP more times than i can remember

The ASUS support link is did and they have not replied to my email, any help would be very greatly appreciated

Tanks
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Question by:ninjabadger
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by:Movax
ID: 8061935
Of course the obvious thing is power supply. what you describe are classic symptoms of not enough watts.

I would also suggest you try resinstalling windows with ACPI turned off. It may reduce performance, but some devices don't "play nice" with this turned on.
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Covenant earned 225 total points
ID: 8063402
To get to read the error message in XP, go into System Properties/Advanced/startup and untick the box that says 'Reboot on error'.

Also check the Event Viewer in System Tools - it should tell you with a red exclamation mark what the last serious error was.

Without more info I would guess the same as Movax - PSU is a likely candidate (the GF4 128mb is a power hungry mofo). Also check the AGP Aperture - you dont need more than 64mb with that amount of RAM in your system and a 128mb gfx card.
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8066869
I have a 550W PSU because i was concerned about the 300W one which came with it,  Ill try everything else, thanks
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8066988
I have a 550W PSU because i was concerned about the 300W one which came with it,  Ill try everything else, thanks
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8073441
I took a not of the blue screen error, other than the usual contact your admistrator crap it is,
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Technical Information

*** STOP:0*000000D1 (0*0069006C, 0*0000000Z, 0*00000000, 0*F83980BC)

***Teefer.sys - Address F83980BC base at F8396000, Datestamp 3e2dcddf

this means abrolutely jack to me but im no expert.
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8074983
I took a not of the blue screen error, other than the usual contact your admistrator crap it is,
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Technical Information

*** STOP:0*000000D1 (0*0069006C, 0*0000000Z, 0*00000000, 0*F83980BC)

***Teefer.sys - Address F83980BC base at F8396000, Datestamp 3e2dcddf

this means abrolutely jack to me but im no expert.
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by:Covenant
ID: 8078518
That error is a classic symptom of a dodgy device driver - check/update all your drivers. I would also do a full virus scan while you are there as I cant find out what 'teefer.sys' is.
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8079097
All drivers are fully updated, i have tried over various clean installs the newest drivers from both ASUS and the n-vidia ones for the ti4200.  I just ran a fully updated trend micro PC-cillin virus scan and it showed no virus
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by:Covenant
ID: 8079800
It wont necessarily be the video drivers - it could be another device interfering.

Also don't discount a faulty graphics card - try another similar spec card in your system if you can, either that or put your card in another WinXP system. winXP is overly sensitive to faulty hardware and drivers.

Hope this helps.
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8080097
All drivers are fully updated, i have tried over various clean installs the newest drivers from both ASUS and the n-vidia ones for the ti4200.  I just ran a fully updated trend micro PC-cillin virus scan and it showed no virus
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8091123
Right,

I was using ANSYS (An engineering program for finite element analyis) which basically computes very very big matrices and needs tons of CPU power and loads of memory.  It needs very little graphics power tho compared with a game.  I have ran memtest and found no errors after hours and hours, does does this mean its the CPU and if so how do i test this faster?
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by:Movax
ID: 8091845
memtest being what? memtest86? That is an excellent util, and if says your memory is okay, it most likely is.

-Try going into your bios and putting all memory, PCI and AGP timings to slowest. Turn off fast writes.

-If you can get ahold of another vid card try to test the system with that instead.
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by:Covenant
ID: 8091962
Ok, try this...

Go to 'System Information' and get a list of IRQ's see which devices are sharing - post the list here.

What SCSI card are you using?

Do you have a modem or network card installed?

Did you find any red exclamation marks in event viewer?


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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8096080
Network card is Realtek RTL8029)AS)-based Ethernet adapter (generic)

SCSI card is Adaptec 2940UW, drive is quantum atlas 10k II

Can not fully remember about red exclamationmarks, i dont thnik there were, only yellow

I have since reinstalled and the PCI and AGP settings are mostly set to lowest by default.  I changed the rest.  I have had no (touch wood) crashes today and i have been deliberately trying to crash it with ANSYS.  Im going to try some games again.

When I reinstalled i reset bios to defaults, i hadnt changed anything anyway, all i change is boot device order.

I am running the original drivers that came with the card and have not installed any service packs.  I have only installed NERO, ANSYS and sygate firewall

AS for IRQs, the only devices on the same one are the network card and the VIA OHCI Complient IEEE 1394 Host controller.

I will try to get another vid card, my flatmate has a creative ti4200, i just need to convince/not tell him.
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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8188445
It seems to have sorted itself out after a reinstall and bios defaulting

Thanks to all

Points go to who told me most i didnt know

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by:ninjabadger
ID: 8188453
Was very helpful.  The peoblem solved itself on my PC but this guy gave me lots of usefull hints and tips

Cheers
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