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Geforce 4 MX440 / OpenGL Problem

Posted on 2003-03-08
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Dell Dimension 4100
P3 733
512 SDRAM
Geforce 4 MX440 64 Meg Vid Card

My problem seems to have occured whenever I try playing games that use OpenGL.  In random reoccurances the game would lock up and the sounds would repeat for about 15-30 seconds.  I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling video drivers, I've updated to "Microsoft Approved Drivers",  I have also tried changing the settings on my video card.  None have worked as I am still freezing whenever I try to run a game in OpenGL.  I have read the question by another member regaurding the Geforce4 MX440 card and I also noticed the "accepted answer".  The problem I ran into is that I am not familiar with using Bios.  If anyone, especially T could restate his answer in a more simpler approach so that I may be able to solve my problem I would appreciate it very much.
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by:pr22
ID: 8095970
Here is the answer tmj883 posted:

Try this: Prior to the installation of the drivers: Set 4X AGP, 128MB AGP aperature, No shadow.  If you have not done so already, make sure that BIOS is set to reserve IRQ for AGP to prevent sharing. Video Bios shadow is only useful for much older vga cards. To enable AGP 4X correctly, the aperature must be set to 128MB(64MB default). There are reported problems with games using open gl in WinXP. You will face the exact same problems trying to install a Ti4200. Once the BIOS is corrected and drivers are installed, you must also reinstall Direct X. Hope this helps...T

If someone could explain this to me in a simpler approach I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanking you,

Pras
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by:pr22
ID: 8095976
and yes I'm using WinXP, but I have already updated to SP1 and have dled the fix for refresh rate problems.  OpenGL still freezes tho.
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by:pr22
ID: 8095981
and yes I'm using WinXP, but I have already updated to SP1 and have dled the fix for refresh rate problems.  OpenGL still freezes tho.
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by:pr22
ID: 8096006
I have read all three of your links but none answer my question.  I have already updated to the latest drivers, and I do not get any error messages.  The game just locks up.
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by:stevenlewis
ID: 8096032
If you have updated the drivers, and they don't support OpenGL, then you are out of luck, unless you can get the game not to use OpenGL
You have to make sure you get the drivers that support OpenGL
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by:pr22
ID: 8096060
"Here is the answer tmj883 posted:

Try this: Prior to the installation of the drivers: Set 4X AGP, 128MB AGP aperature, No shadow.  If you have not done so already, make sure that BIOS is set to reserve IRQ for AGP to prevent sharing. Video Bios shadow is only useful for much older vga cards. To enable AGP 4X correctly, the aperature must be set to 128MB(64MB default). There are reported problems with games using open gl in WinXP. You will face the exact same problems trying to install a Ti4200. Once the BIOS is corrected and drivers are installed, you must also reinstall Direct X. Hope this helps...T
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What I need is a explanation of the statement above, as in where to go to set 4X AGP, 128 MB aperature, No shadow.  And how to change Bios so that you set it to reserve IRQ for AGP to prevent sharing.

Thanks
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by:stevenlewis
ID: 8096131
You hae to go into your bios to change all of that
different machines have different ways to get into the bios (and some are dummied down so you can't change it) but with any luck you can yours
try pressing del or F1 or F2 or F10 at boot up to get into your bios
BE Careful in there, you can cause the machine not to boot!
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by:pr22
ID: 8098116
if someone could tell me how to set BIOS to reserve IRQ to AGP so it doesn't share, and where to disable Shadow.  Thanks.

I know how to access BIOS now.
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by:pr22
ID: 8099181
This is my mobo:

Intel Corporation D815EEA AAA10383-203

I just flashed my BIOS, succesfully, today.  But I'm still freezing in games.
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by:prd00
ID: 8100703
try to obtain driver from nvidia. don't use native drivers.
Get it here 41.09 drivers
www.nvidia.com
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by:Jerry_Pang
ID: 8101698
http://www.xp-refresh.net


suggested fix.
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by:Covenant
ID: 8101859
Now you know how to get into BIOS, go here:
http://www.rojakpot.com/
...and look at the BIOS guide. It explains all the settings in relatively plain english so you should be able to work out what you have to change.


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by:pr22
ID: 8103816
I don't have most of the commands on my BIOS, I checked everything including the Video settings.  My AGP is set to 4X and my Aperature can't be set to over 64 Megs, why?  I don't know.  Also I don't have an option to set my BIOS for No Shadow, stupid Intel MOBO's.  I already have the refresh rate fix.  I get constant good FPS, I just freeze up.  Maybe its the ACPI problems with windows XP and old motherboards?  If theres a way to check if my computer is using or can use ACPI I would like to know.

Also I have the latest drivers from NVidia, I also have the Geforce Tweaker to modify my settings so that isn't the problem.

Thanks,

PR22
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by:pr22
ID: 8103830
Also I don't have an option to Reserve IRQ for AGP, if theres another way to access it without going to BIOS I would like to know.  Wow I really hate Intel and Dell, such cheap parts for down right disgusting performance.
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by:prd00
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->Also I don't have an option to Reserve IRQ for AGP, if theres another way to access it without going to BIOS I would like to know.  Wow I really hate Intel and Dell, such cheap parts for down right disgusting performance.
Heh... agreed... That's why I liked Abit. You can find more than you can think on its BIOS.

pr22... it could be AGP GART issues. Have you install Chipset driver from Intel? www.intel.com
Then, to make sure IRQ is not shared, generally ASUS, Intel and Gigabyte tends to share AGP and PCI1 slot IRQ, Abit usually leave PCI1 unsoldered, ECS and some ASUS usually with PCI5. It doesn't always be the same with all boards from 1 brand, but you can check on you board manual. You can get the manual from Intel Site as well. Move expansion slot from those shared one. AGP doesn't like to be shared.

To check ACPI, open Device manager.
In Win9x, it is listed under System Devices node
In WinXP, Win2K, it is listed under Computer node

Another fruit of thought, try to disable sound, and play the game under OpenGL without sound. You use Intel board, and SoundMax is suck. I began to think that the problem is not on your display, but your sound, because it seems that your display card is okay. But, make sure that your display subsystem is perfect first, then try disabling your audio. You can just run the game silent, or if you can't disable sound driver from your game, you can disable it at BIOS.
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