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We want to install software so that all users can use it, not just the administrator who installed it.

How can we get the relevant configuration from the admin user to the all users profile?

Is there a relatviely easy way? ie not copying chunks of registry about the place and risking missing something

Some software comes with an installer which sensibly asks if we want it for one or all users. or is there a utlitiy which can help?

[in case it's relevant - As we install we intend using SMS installer to create a 'package' for installation to copy the installation to other LAN clients.]
TIA
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by:smallbee
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well.. I guess it depends on the software developers on how they handle this issue..

somehow I usually make the user as a Poweruser on the user/password setting under control panel...

it works for some programs, but some won't, it just that u have to be an admin, or u have to modify the local security policy setting under the admin and control panel

go to the local security setting and users rights assignment ... then act the domain user to "acts as the part of the OS"

that should work
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>> We want to install software so that all users can use it, not just the administrator who installed it.

How can we get the relevant configuration from the admin user to the all users profile?

Once you have installed the software, copy the Administrator Profile over the Default Users profile.  When you logon as a new user who has not logged on before their profile is created from the default user's and the All Users profile is added.

>> Is there a relatviely easy way? ie not copying chunks of registry about the place and risking missing something

I think I just answered this, but it is not always that easy.

>> Some software comes with an installer which sensibly asks if we want it for one or all users. or is there a utlitiy which can help?

The software you mention was properly written with the operating system in mind.  There is no utility that I am aware of that can modify a compiled installer to change it's habits and properly install and configure itself for the OS you are running.

For the software that is not playing nice, may I suggest you enable event logging for Object Access and Privelege Use, logon as the user and attempt to use the application.  Log back off after the failure and tnen exam the event log to see where the user lacked rights.  This is not easy as it will not always tell you to which file(s), directory or registry key it lacked the appropriate rights.  However, if your going to implement SMS this is something you should be able to do.  Before you get too deep into event logging I would check with the manufacturers to see if they support rinning the software in Win2k.  If they do, they may advise where the user needs rights, or they may blow you off and tell you the only support the software in Win2k if the user is and administrator or power user.

There is a discussion in the lounge that touches on this and may shed some light: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Miscellaneous/Lounge/Q_20536903.html

Good luck, MSGeek.
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by:stbedes
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MSGeek: Thanks for your comoments. The ref to the lounge discussion has proved interesting. We agree that applications should not interfere with OS except for read only.
My hope for a utility was maybe for something which would find references in the registry and move them or set access rights accordingly. There are programs which purport to remove registry entries left behind by deleted programs - if they are intelligent to do that I just wondered ...
Run As does the job but needs password each time - defeats object.
Installer may help in allowing applications to be installed on demand by different users, but does not address the power user/admin needs of some software.

Not sure where to go from here - Linux? ;)

First step is to establish exactly what the difference is between power user and 'normal' user.

Will also investigate the event logs, though this does not appeal for each application we may need to install. ICT is supposed to help make things easier.

Points to you for confirming there is no (immediate) answer!


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by:stbedes
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See other comment.
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by:MSGeek
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I'll request a refund of the points, I don't feel it warranted.
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by:Computer101
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A request for review has been made.  I can change the grade and let it remain or I can refund the points and change the grade.

Suggestions?

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by:stbedes
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What is normal protocol? We are not heavy EE users.

MSGeek commented in good faith and provided info which confirmed there is not really an answer. (his/hers was best comment of those submitted)

He/She kindly is declining the  points as no actual answer was given - how about giving half?
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by:MSGeek
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Grading: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Community_Support/New_to_EE/Q_20310437.html

On a personal note I would rather not get any points if a grade of C is warranted.  Very often a grade of C is awarded where a response has not directly answered the question or solved the problem, sometimes it is done just to close the question.  I am not saying that has occurred, but I also like to have a good report card.
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by:stbedes
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MSGeek - As I say - you answered in good faith. We are happy for you to have the points.

I agree there is no need to record a grade C if that is the side effect of reducing them.
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by:MSGeek
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A grade of C was given when you accepted my answer.
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by:stbedes
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Sorry. I have misinterpreted the process in that case. The C was the reflection of the lack of available answer - which is not down to you. I awarded all the points to reflect your level of help. Perhaps it should be the other way round.

You were helpful within the context of an unanswerable question. It can be grade B and half points if you prefer.

Perhaps the admin/moderator can change this after reading this post to close the matter.

Thanks again.
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by:MSGeek
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Computer101,

Obviously since the question was not answered stbedes feels not all points should be awarded regardless of grade.  Please refund all points.

MSGeek
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Points refunded and grade changed

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Thanks.
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