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Hi,

I would like to know how to manage a wins server.

Once installed on my server, do I have to add IP and netbios names manually ?

Do I have to modify default settings of Windows NT server or are they pretty correct for a small LAN : 100 users ?

Will it speed up my transfers ? avoid collision if collision exists in this case ?

I plan to add a DNS server at the same time... if you have an installation guide aswell :-)

Thanks and best regards.
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by:JammyPak
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Here's what to do:
1) install the WINs server
2) change all your workstations/servers to be clients of that WINs server

You're essentially done now, with one exception - if there are machines that cannot function as WINs clients (ex. unix machines) then you can add static entries into the WINs database for these machines. Otherwise, your workstations will automatically add themselves into the WINs database.

WINs will do absoutely nothing for collisions or data transfers. All it does is provide a name resolution service - if your client needs to find a server, it queries the WINs server, and the WINs server responds with an IP address - that's about it. It *will* make finding a server faster, but it won't make copying data off that server any faster.

DNS is a little more interesting - it provides a similar service, but for all TCP/IP hosts instead of just Windows. It also allows for different host types like mail exchanger. Tell us what you would like DNS to do for you, and then I can help explain how to set it up. If you're just installing it for the sake of it, then go ahead and try it out.

HTH,
JP
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by:Taishaku
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Ok and once all the workstations have become wins client, where are all those informations stored ?

In case of RAS to my LAN, is wins better than DNS server than ?

I was wondering if a Wins server could help me to authenticate RAS client in the network and solve some problems like not getting mail from mailserver due to the fact that the netbios name was not recongnized... so I had to add manually the IP and netbios name in the Hosts... quite boring...

For me the DNS server sounds like that it was done to have a faster access to url's ... but I was also wondering if DNS server could act as Wins server ? so I only install DNS server...
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by:JammyPak
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"where are all those informations stored "
> Wins contains a database - wins.mdb Also, in the WINS manager you can see the registered machines.

"In case of RAS to my LAN, is wins better than DNS server than "
>Once you've made a RAS connection to the network, I don't think there's any big difference between DNS and WINS - if you don't have dynamic DNS then WINS is a better choice.

"I was wondering if a Wins server could help me to authenticate RAS client in the network and solve some problems like not getting mail from mailserver due to the fact that the netbios name was not recongnized... so I had to add manually the IP and netbios name in the Hosts... quite boring..."
> this is exactly what DNS and WINS are for - keeping you from needing hosts and lmhosts file entries. Some clients will only query one or the other, depending on how theyre written, so you may want to have entries in WINS and DNS.

"also wondering if DNS server could act as Wins server "
>The same server can be both WINS and DNS, no problem. With DNS, you'll have to create a 'forward lookup zone' for your domain, and then add host records in for your mail server and such.

"For me the DNS server sounds like that it was done to have a faster access to url's " 
> yes, the browser will query DNS first - but it won't necessarily make surfing external websites a lot faster - it will cache query results and make things a little quicker, and it will allow you to lookup internal urls (intranet, etc).

HTH,
JP
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by:Taishaku
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With DNS, you'll have to create a 'forward lookup zone' for your domain, and then add host records in for your mail server and such.

Could you explain where can I fing the 'forward lookup zone' ?


"also wondering if DNS server could act as Wins server "
My question was if I could use DNS server in place of Wins server ? and have the same results ?
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"My question was if I could use DNS server in place of Wins server ? and have the same results ?"

This depends on what the results you are hoping for are. If you are only going to use DNS/WINS for finding servers on your local network, then yes, they are somewhat interchangable in terms of what they do (keeping in mind what I mentioned about some programs being picky about which they will use).

However; there are situations where one will do and the other won't. If you have UNIX clients, they will only use DNS, not WINs. If you need to set up hosting of a website or Internet email servers, than that's what DNS is designed for - (you can't add mx records to a WINS server - only DNS). WINS only works for your internal Windows clients. DNS works for your internal Windows clients, but also gives you Internet functionality.

"With DNS, you'll have to create a 'forward lookup zone' for your domain, and then add host records in for your mail server and such."

DNS manager for Windows is pretty straightforward...for Windows 2000, right click on 'forward lookup zone' and choose 'new zone', choose promary, and enter the name. Right click inside the zone and choose 'add host', etc.

JP
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by:Taishaku
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Thank you very much for all your explanations, I can now go further in my installations !

Thanks for your help !
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