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I am trying to replace one of two Win98 computers on a working local area network with a WinXP computer.  The new computer can see the other and be seen by it, and the WinXP machine can access the files on the Win98 machine.  However, although the c: drive and several directories of the WinXP machine are displayed in the network neighborhood on the Win98 computer, any attempt to access them results in the error: "directory not available.  Not enough memory.  Quit some programs."  The Win98 computer getting the error has 256Mbytes of memory and this happens even when no other task is running.  The WinXP computer is using simple sharing and sharing is enabled at both the hard disk level and in folders on the disk.  As a test, I replaced the WinXP computer with the old Win98 computer that had previously been in place and all was well between the two Win98's.
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by:stevenlewis
ID: 8124901
http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxpwin9x.htm
and from a great expert lrmoore
First and formost, make sure there is no firewall software running! XP has built in PFW.Turn off the Internet Connection Firewall ICF in the advanced settings for the Lan Connection. Check for Norton Internet Security AV/Firewall, BlackIce, ZoneAlarm, et al.

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Next, check your XP networking setup:

http://support.chartermi.net/support/pipeline/windows/winxp_network.html

Although this link says to set netbios over tcp/ip to "default", follow the instructions below...

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Turn on "Simple file sharing" on the XP machine. Open explorer, click tools, click folder options, click the view tab and scroll down until you see "Use simple file sharing" then check the box..

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For the duration of testing, enable the Guest account on XP. If all works, you can deal with that issue later (username/passwords for everyone on every PC)

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Client for Microsoft Networks needs to be the primary network logon for all other machines

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All machines are in the same workgroup


Enable NetBios over TCP/IP in WIndows XP

Step 1: Turn On NetBIOS over TCP/IP

Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Network and Internet Connections.

Click Network Connections.

Right-click Local Area Connection, and then click Properties.

Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), and then click Properties.

Click the General tab, and then click Advanced.

Click the WINS tab.

Under NetBIOS setting, click Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and then click OK two times.

Click Close to close the Local Area Connection Properties dialog box.

Close the Network Connections window.

Step 2: Start the Computer Browser Service

Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Manage.

In the console tree, expand Services and Applications.

Click Services.

In the right details pane, verify that the Computer Browser service is started, right-click Computer Browser, and then click Start.

Close the Computer Management window.

References:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318030

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314366

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315267

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/slowbrowse02.htm

http://www.michna.com/kb/WxNetwork.htm




the other issue could be permissions
turn off simplified file sharing
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/tips/september/stevens1.asp
and on the XP boxes
Run local security policy editor from control panel admin tools and set the local policy, Network Access: Let everyone permissions apply to anonymous users, to enabled and make sure guest account is enabled

then share a folder/file, and set permissions for it/them
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by:bbrown42
ID: 8125470
I followed each step, but no joy.  After that I turned off simple sharing and set full access permissions for guest, anonymous, and everyone.  Still no luck.
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by:stevenlewis
ID: 8132415
from a prompt type
ipconfig /all
on all machines, and post the results here please
can you ping from each machine to the other?
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by:bbrown42
ID: 8133540
I can ping each machine from the other.

Windows XP IP Configuration
    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : WHB
    Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920
      Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX  
      Compatible)
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-15-42-74
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : attbi.com
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : ORiNOCO PC Card
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-2D-39-B5-AB
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.166
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.68
                                        204.127.202.4
Windows 98 IP Configuration
 Host Name . . . . . . . . . : NORA.attbi.com
 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.68
                               204.127.202.4
 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
 NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
 IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
 WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
 NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
 Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
 Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
 IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
 Default Gateway . . . . . . :
 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
 Primary WINS Server . . . . :
 Secondary WINS Server . . . :
1 Ethernet adapter :
 Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
 Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-80-AD-B6-A1-65
 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
 IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.139
 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
 Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
 Primary WINS Server . . . . :
 Secondary WINS Server . . . :
 


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by:stevenlewis
ID: 8133581
check to see if there is an lmhosts file (and hosts file)
on the 98 box
c:\windows
not lmhosts.sam, just "lmhosts" no extension
open in notepad and remove the entries
also if using NetBEUI on the 98 box, install it on the XP box
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q301/0/41.asp
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by:bbrown42
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No lmhosts file.  The 98 machine was using NetBeui, but installing it on the XP box didn't do anything.  Just for drill, I then removed it from both machines.  Didn't change a thing.
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by:stevenlewis
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XP pro or home?
pro?
Run local security policy editor from control panel admin tools and set the local policy, Network Access: Let everyone permissions apply to anonymous users, to enabled and make sure guest account is enabled


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by:bbrown42
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I've fixed it!  But I'm not sure exactly what did it:  I noticed that in the last month, prior to installing the XP machine on the network, I'd gotten a number of updates for XP (Pro) from Microsoft, mostly to plug security leaks, so today I uninstalled them, and that did the trick.  All my network settings, security policies, permissions, & users were set exactly the same as when it didn't work, so something in one or more of Microsoft's updates was causing the trouble.  For reference, the updates were Q329048, Q329115, Q329390, Q328310, Q810833, and Q810577.  When I get more time I may try reinstalling them one at a time to finger the culprit, but for now, I have work to catch up on.
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