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Teen grandkids were trying to play a DVD movie on my system.  I have a Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD that "used" to be listed in device manager under "harddisk controllers"  I don't know what they did, but now in device manager under"harddisk controllers" there are 3 things listed.  #1 is, Intel 82371AB/EB BCI Bus Master IDE Controller, #2 is Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo), #3 is Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo).  What happened.  They told me they were trying to load a driver they thought wasn't properly loaded.  I bought this system from Video Personalities 4 years ago.  As all know they were victims of "Fountain Technologies" I had a system crash about 2 years ago and had to reformat and install windows, (OS is Win 98).  Being totally new to computers it was a learning experience for sure.  All I have for drivers is a "Hardware Driver" cd that they send with 100's of drivers on it.  Unless know what is exactly in my system it was hard to find the drivers.  But Windows reconized my harddrive and the Toshiba DVD ROM.  Now it doesn't.  At least not as a it was "Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD-ROM.  What did they do and is there a way I can fix it?  My system is an Inteva PC-875.  Pent.III, 450 Mhz.  The DVD was 4.8X DVD CD-ROM.  It there anyway you can help me?

Thank you
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by:_Darrell_
ID: 8148693
Hi,

You can go into 'Device Manager',
Highlight the DVD ROM, and choose 'Delete'.
'Ok' out of the Device Manager, and let the system restart.

Windows should see the "new" DVD drive.
All should be well with your computer.

Hint,
If Windows asks for drivers, insert the CD you wrote about.
If you "Browse" the CD for drivers using the "Specify a Location" option, watch the "OK" button at the bottom of the Window.

If you highlight/open a folder that does not contain drivers that 'might' work for your device the OK is dimmed out.
If you highlight/open a folder that might contain the correct drivers the OK button looks normal.

You may have to go through a bunch of folders before you find the correct one that has the drivers you need. But whating that OK button will allow you to skip past many.
Once you find the correct folder, write it on the CD itself so you have the information for next time.

Good luck,
Darrell
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by:grandma8
ID: 8152529
Darrel,

Thank you for the advice.  How ever I am a little leary (new user) of deleteing as you said, CD-ROM.  Won't that stop it from working?  I did go through the Driver CD and found that it is drivers for Win95 and all are to be updated.  I managed for find (3) drivers listed having to do with Toshiba. They are as follows: #1. Toshiba 4x-24x IDE for DOS/Mode V.1.6987, install using add/remove, path=E:\wind95\Driver CD-ROM\IDE\ Toshiba\Setup exe. #2. Is listed under "Other" on the cd is Toshiba DVD Daughter for Win95 Vers. 2.5 install using add new hardware, path= E:\other\DVD\DECODER\ Toshiba DVD daughter\DISK 1.  #3. is Toshiba IDE DVD Reader Dos Drive V 1.6984, install using file run program manager, path = E:\other\dvd\Toshiba\setup exe.
I have NO idea which to use. I do have a Win 98 Bootdisk that came with my system also.  However I did have a crash and complete wipe of my harddrive and it had to be reformatted and Windows re-installed.  (again grandkids) Can I somehow use the bootdisk to help me even though windows has been re-installed.  I thought I had made another one and found the disk I used wasn't formatted so I now have none.

Thank You
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by:_Darrell_
ID: 8155846
Hi again,

Fear not.
After you delete the DVD drive from the device manager and restart, Windows will see it as new and install the old working drivers it already has.

As for the drivers you found on the CD ...
You really don't require drivers for DOS, since all your use will be from within Windows. So, I choose door/choice #2.

You will not need to use a boot disk.
The boot disk will only start your system into DOS, and aloow you to partition and format your hard drive. This you do not need to do.

Just delete the DVD drive in the device manager and restart your system just as I listed in my first reply.
You don't know me, but you do need to trust me in this.

Darrell
http://home.pacbell.net/dbk4297/index.html
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by:grandma8
ID: 8156697
Darrell,
Thank you again for your help.  I spoke to my grandson (one who messed with this) and he told me he tried to load some drivers from the Hardware driver CD that I have.  He said that when he did the screen went "black with white letters" and kept asking him to pick yes or no.  He told me he kept answering yes until he was told to restart.  Would his having done this done anything to the BIOS?  And if I do as you have told me will it work if he has messed up the BIOS?  I no longer have DVD listed only CD-ROM and then the list of others I wrote about that are listed under "hardware drivers"  If he hasn't changed the BIOS I will do as you said. And I do trust you.
Thank You again
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by:grandma8
ID: 8156854
Darrel.

Also about 2 years ago my system "totally" crashed as I stated before.  Everything as far as I know was re-installed.  I have the original Win98 Boot disk that came with my system.  Can I possibly use this if I ever need one or will I need to make a new one?  
Thank You.

Grandma
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by:grandma8
ID: 8163360
Darrel,

I ran system file checker today and about cried.  I found at least 20 files that had been changed and about 30 that had been DELETED.  Must have happened when grandson was messing around. I tried re-installing them but was unable.  When I put in restore from E:\WIN98, it told it that the files could not be found.  All are .dll files or VxD's.  What can I do.  Do I have to re-install windows again? Most are system files but most are WBEM files.  Is there a way I can get them back without having to re-install of Windows?

Thank You
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by:slink9
ID: 8165577
You can boot in safe mode (F8 while booting) and do a Start-Run-REGEDIT and delete the HKEY Local Machine/Enum registry entry.  This will completely remove all hardware from Windows.
If you need drivers for any of your components you should go to www.driverguide.com (or the manuf web sites) and download them first.  You should also put a copy of the WIN98 CAB files on your hard drive before doing this (I use C:\CABS as my directory).  If that doesn't help you can follow the instructione below to completely wipe the hard drive and reinstall 98 and all programs.

Download a boot disk from www.bootdisk.com and boot on it
FDISK /mbr
FDISK and remove the partition(s)
recreate the partition(s)
Reboot on the boot disk
FORMAT C:
MD C:\CABS
COPY D:\WIN98\*.* C:\CABS
C:
CD\CABS
SETUP

Explanation:
FDISK /mbr rewrites the boot sector of your hard drive.  This is good just in case you may have some boot sector corruption due to virus or some other foe.
Removing the partition(s) is option 3 in FDISK I believe.  this guarantees that you will not have any leftovers from the old installation.
Recreating the partitions is option 1.  You should be able to only create one partition and make sure you chose large disk support when you started FDISK if you have a drive larger than 2G.
FORMAT C: formats the drive as you already know.  There is no need to put /s on it since that will be taken care of by the 98 installation.
You create a CABS directory on your hard drive and put the installation files there for faster and easier installation.  It is also quite easier when you need to add hardware or make config changes.
SETUP starts the Win98 installation.
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by:TEG
ID: 8171285
With 500 points on the line all I can say is don't let the grandkids play with your computer anymore!
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by:pbhj
ID: 8181309
Have you tried Darrell's suggestion - deleting the drive in the system view of the device manager (then rebooting) - this should work. Toshiba say on their site that their drives don't require further drivers - also http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Reviews/dvd/toshiba/sdm1212.htm affirms this, the drivers being used are generic to Win98. That is the driver files are already on your Win98 disk (and your system if they've not been deleted in all the recent 'fun').

Can I reccommend you do this with your grandkids present, then they'll have learnt one way to fix a missing driver ...

pbhj
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by:brakk0
ID: 8184144
Try Darrell and pbhj's suggestions, delete it from device manager and when you reboot, windows should say it found new hardware. Let it install the default driver for it. It doesn't matter if it calls it a cdrom or dvdrom as long as it will read a DVD when you put one in. cd/dvd drives generally don't need drivers.

I doubt they could have done anything to the BIOS with what you described. If windows doesn't recognise the drive at all, you might try to reseat the IDE cable that's connecting it to the motherboard. Just unplug it and plug it back in.

Like I said, it really doesn't matter what it's called in device manager. Just look in "My computer" and see if you see a cd or dvd drive and try to open it with a dvd in the drive.
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by:slink9
ID: 8184166
We haven't heard from grandma in a few days.  Are you still there?
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by:grandma8
ID: 8184963
I'm still here thank you.  Everyone has been so wonderful and patient in trying to help me.  I tried to do an F8 on boot to select Command Prompt (DOD) to do a scanreg/restore in hopes I could go back to a date prior to the kids messing around and found that it would only go back to the very day that they did it.  Why could this be?  It only gave me the dates 3/14-3/19.  May sound like a dumb question but, does one need to have a Graphics Card installed in order to play DVD's.  Reason I ask is I received a "users manual" when I bought this system 4 years ago for "Multimedia/Graphics Windows Accelerator".  But inside it talks about Voodoo 2 PCI.  It took drives for Intel i740 AGP in order to get my graphics so they didn't look so mosaic.  I received NO installation disk with this book.  I have "NO" pass through cables so I am wondering if I have a Voodoo2 card in my system?  It doesn't show that I have one anywhere in the device manager so I am wondering what to h---this "Users Manual could be for.  It has a chapter on "software" installation for installing enhanced driver. (I received NO CD)  then it goes on to tell about how to "add new harware"  Question is, could this possibly also be a reason that DVD'S are no longer playable on my system?  I am getting very confused.

Gandma
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by:slink9
ID: 8185018
This is 98.  The scanreg has never helped me out very much, either.
The best way to tell what you have in the system is to open it up and look at what is installed.  Other than that you can run a program called SiSoft Sandra - http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/
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by:grandma8
ID: 8185079
Thanks-- I went into file search to look for anything that may have been changed in "autoexe" and "config"  I found that on 3/13 there are a couple files that are listed. One is, Autoexe.bak c:\ BAK file, and Config sys. c:\System file and Config bak c:\BAK file.  Is there a way I can get these files to help me? All are said to be modified.
I'm sure you have heard it before, but you people are super!!!
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by:slink9
ID: 8185987
If you look at AUTOEXE.BAK (with EDIT) and it looks helpful you can always rename it

RENAME C:\BAK\AUTOEXE.BAK C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT

The best thing to do is rename the autoexec.bat and config.sys that are there now to something else (let's say your initials as an extension) because they generally are not needed for Win98 and above.
If you need to find drivers you can either find them at the manuf web sites or at www.driverguide.com
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by:grandma8
ID: 8186267
slink9,

I think you may have mis-understood my question.  I was wondering if I can use these files to get "back" to where my system was "before" grandson played around. In otherwords can I use them to "undo" what he did.

Thank you
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by:TEG
ID: 8186548
Those old ".bak" files may contain some old commands which load some "DOS mode" drivers, but (like others have said) Windows is supposed to be able to use its' own drivers so it shouldn't care what is in the old autoexec.bak/config.bak or the new autoexec.bat/config.bak   Assuming that there isn't too much in those files, maybe you could post the contents here for us to evaluate.  In particular, commands like "device=..." in config.* and "path=..." in autoexec.*

You could use slink9's suggestions to revert autoexec.bat and config.sys back to their old versions but that probably won't put your system "back" to the way it was before.  Autoexec.bat and config.sys are typically only used to configure old style 16-bit drivers for use with DOS based programs.  Windows drivers get installed or overwritten in the windows directory "system32".  If people have been installing new drivers, to "go back" you often have to find installers for the old drivers and install them.  There is no sure-fire "undo" or "go back" method in Win98.  (XP does have an option to "undo everything", but your system is underpowered to be considered for XP).

You can see a user comments on the Intel i740 graphics card here:
http://www.sysopt.com/userreviews/vidcards/reviewhtml/Intel_i740.html
(some like it, some don't)
You are right that the Voodoo2 card is a "passthrough, overlay" card that does 3D acceleration.
More information here:
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/tutorials/64/1/
So your monitor is plugged into a VGA card slot (probably AGP slot all the way to the left) which has only one VGA connector, right?  The Voodoo2 card has two DB13 VGA connectors on it... On is for the stubby passthrough cable from the VGA card, and the other is the output to the monitor.  Do you see an unused card in you system that has two small 13 pin connectors on it?  If not then you don't have a Voodoo2 card.

If you put a CDROM (not a movie) into your DVD drive, and then go to "my computer" (or windows explorer) can you find a "drive letter" (like D:) that shows the contents of that CDROM?  You should see the DVDROM activity light go on and hear it start spinning if the CDROM/DVDROM driver is functioning.  You should try to confirm that this works first before trying to see if there is any issue with your video card.

Again - I would give up on trying to find an "undo" procedure.  You need to identify your hardware properly, then re-install correct drivers for each piece.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8188055
TEG,
  My CD-ROM is working.  It seems to read fine.  I would love to be able to identify what is in my system.  I have managed for find what modem, sound card, and which DVD-Rom I have.  Unfortunately I never received any installation CD's for any of what is in or on my system.  I purchased this almost 4 years ago. It is an Inteva system (they no longer exist) and bought it through an infomercial- Video Personalities.  All I got with it is this a Quality Control Check list.  This is what it says, 450Mhz. Intel Pentium III Processor w/MMX, 64MegRAM, 512 KB L2 Cache, 13 gig hard drive, 8meg 64 bit 3D Intel based AGP Video Card and Software (installed), 4.8x CD-ROM, 56k V.90 modem, Creative Labs 3D Sound Card.  It also listed printer etc. which I have since changed.  All I received is a "Hardware Driver" CD with hundreds of drivers on it for different perefreals.  I did manage to find the right ones for my monitor and sound when my system crashed a couple years ago and Windows had to be re-installed and my harddrive re-formatted.
If I take out the cd-rom (DVD) and let windows re-install it, how do I get it to read and play movies again?
Again I thank you all
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by:slink9
ID: 8188096
The best way to tell what you have in the system is to open it up and look at what is installed.  Other than that you can run a program called SiSoft Sandra - http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/ 

I believe that is a repeat.
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by:TEG
ID: 8188271
8mb memory is not a lot for a graphics card.

Many software DVD players will only play if they can
get an "overlay plane" defined on the graphics card
memory.  If all your grandkids did was change the
resolution, refresh rate, or bitdepth of your display
settings then that could make DVD playback stop working.

Right click on your desktop...  Select "properties"
Click on the rightmost "tab" labeled "settings".
What does it say for "Colors" and for "Screen Area"?
You might want to try "High Color (16bit)"
and "800x600" for the screen area.   Now click on the
"advanced" button and then the "adapter" setting.
Does is show a "refresh rate"?  Make sure it is 60hz.
Now click OK, then OK again, and confirm the change.
Now try the DVD player again.

If the above doesn't help you might want to bump of the
resolution and refresh again (depending on what your
monitor supports).  1024x768 with 75hz refresh might
end up looking better, but it may not allow DVD playback
with that graphics card.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8188380
TEG,

I checked out my display and it is set at 800x600. Under the advanced tab It is set at "OPTIMAL" with other rates that can be chosen from 56mhz to 85.  My monitor is an AOC Spectrum 7Vlr.  I checked the manual on it and I think it can go as high as 1280x1024.  I do know that my graphics where really bad after the crash until I installed the i740 intel driver.  Then things were fine. I don't know if it helps but I did find out the the Video BIOS version is 231. Microsoft direct X version 4.08.01.0881.
I had never had a problem with watching movies until my granson did what he did.  All he can remember is when he typed in the driver that the window became "Black background" and the letters were white and it kept asking him questions that he had to answer yes or no to.  He told me he kept aswering yes until he was ask to restart.  From that point on no movies would play.  It still reads cd's and plays music cd's.  So I just can not figure out what he did unless he maybe installed a DOS driver for the DVD.  Would that possibly be the problem?
I went to the Sisoft site you sent and do not know which to load.  If it is only one or a number.
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by:TEG
ID: 8188455
Hmmm... I did a web search on "DVD and i740" and I find that there were some DVD accelerator "daughtercards" that were offered for that graphics adapter.  If you have one of those, then perhaps you need another driver for the DVD accelerator "daughterboard".

Here are some links talking about the DVD add on boards:
http://www.eetimes.com/news/98/994news/dvd.html
http://www.stagetools.com/bill/nw985.htm
"--->  C-Cube Makes i740 DVD Daughter Card
Compression chip pioneer C-Cube Microsystems (http://www.c-cube.com) as developed a daughter card design for Intel i740-based graphics cards. The "Chelsea-I" is based on C-Cube's ZiVa DVD playback chip. The design is completely glueless and offers seamless integration with the i740 at half the price of other options, making it easier for manufacturers to provide ubiquitous DVD video playback on the soon to be ubiquitous i740-based graphics cards.
---> Zoran Shows DVD Card for i740 Card
Not to be undone by rival C-Cube, Zoran (http://www.zoran.com) as created a daughter card for Intel's new i740 graphics chip as well. He under $30 solution utilizes Zoran's SoftDVD software and their Vaddis DVD decoder chip."

It sounds like you have been resisting the though of opening
up the PC, but it may be that your i740 VGA card has some sort
of DVD playback adapter attached to it.  If you could get
someone to open the computer, find the VGA card and see
if it has a little sub-card piggybacking on top.
If so - does it have any brand (like "Zoran" or "C-Cube" or model number?
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by:grandma8
ID: 8188487
I can tear into it myself I suppose.  I do remember from the informercial I watched for months before I decided to buy this system that they kept saying "second generation" DVD.  If that helps at all.  I will check out all the sites you sent.  I have also check the Hardware driver CD and found a cd-rom driver for Toshiba 4x 24x IDE for dos/Mode and under "other" I found, Toshiba DVD Daughter for Windows 95 Ver. 2.5  is said to be a DECODER\TOSHIBA DVD DAUGHTER\DISK1.. The rest I found for Toshiba is for DVD-RAM.
Is this of any help?
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by:grandma8
ID: 8188581
TEG,
Also I don't know if it is will make a difference or not but I did print out the entire "hardware driver" cd.  Now I as stated above have a Multimedia/Graphics Windows Accelerator User's manual from which I got the drivers to clarify my graphics.  In it are 4 chapters== 1. hardware installation, 2. Software Installation "installing the enhanced driver,
3. Video Mode Tables (where I found the i740, and 4. Special introduction-3Dfx PCI Voodoo 2 card.  This is what made me think the graphics card could be a voodoo but there as I said NO pass through cable.  I know I must be getting everyone as comfused as I am.  I truly appeciate everyones patients.  I tried getting help through Toshiba but ran into a brick wall
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by:TEG
ID: 8188914
I have been trying to do more research, and I found
the following:

1> Inteva made a number of different models.
2> Some of them came with 8MB Intel i740 type graphics cards.
3> Some of them came with Voodoo3 graphics cards

Is the only reason you mention the Voodoo because you
saw it listed on the supplied driver CD?
If so - don't worry about it.  The driver CD is probably
a general purpose CD that they supplied for multiple
models and your machine only needs a subset of the drivers
on that CD.

Also - the story of the vendor going out of business is
oh-so-common.  Nothing unusual there.  Aside from the
success stories like IBM, HP, Compaq, Dell and Gateway,
there are 100s if not thousands of small PC companies that
were only in business for a couple of years.  Many people
will tell you that any 4 year old PC is obsolete and should
be replaced with a newer model.  I guess forums like these
help people try to keep their old systems going, but many
people decide to give up because support for older machines
is not available for many models only a few years old.

For about $400 today you could pick up a new eMachine
computer with a 1.8Ghz CPU, DVD ROM, WindowsXP and be
ready to go tomorrow.  If you look around some places
offer that model with rebate coupons for a free printer
and a monitor.  Maybe you don't want to spend any more
money and you are willing to slug it out here trying
to get your DVD going again, but I just wanted to let
you know that many people decide that a new PC is worth
the $ to avoid the hassle of dealing with problems on
an old machine.

If you decide to open the system, please let us know
the model of the VGA card, and if it has any sub-cards
mounted on top.  There may well be another driver
you need, but I can't be certain from your description
so far.


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by:TEG
ID: 8188942
By the way - the Voodoo2 card is basically a 3D accelerator card for games.  It requires a primary VGA card of some sort and then you pass the signal through the Voodoo2 card.
Since your system accepted the i740 drivers, and is running at 800x600 I doubt you have a Voodoo2.  The i740 (in its day) was considered an alternative to the Voodoo2(couple to some other graphics card).  Since the i740 has 3D features similar to the Voodoo2 it wouldn't really make a lot of sense to put both on the same system.

The later voodoo3 card was a standlone graphics card, and Inteva did sell systems with the Voodoo3, but it would require different drivers than the i740 based cards.

If you run "control panel", then "system", then
click on "other" and "sound/video/game-controllers"
do you see anything listed in those sections now?
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by:grandma8
ID: 8191683
TEG,
You are a real gem to work so hard at trying to find answers for me.
The reason I think there could be a Voodoo card of one kind or another is because of the "Users manual" for Multimedia/Graphics Windows Accelerator.  In it (chapter 4) it says Special introduction - 3Dfx PCI Voodoo 2 Card. And just before Chapter 3 which is a list of Video Mode Tables is a picture showing "Joy Setup" and it says this,-The following is an example Setup Window for 3Dfx Banshee, other chipset has picture. Click the button to install a correspinding drivers or software. While you restart Windows, please click YES to restart your system.
Now the reason I installed the Intel i740 AGP/8MB is because in the Quality Control Checklist for Inteva System PC-S875 it says the an 8meg 64bit 3D Intel based AGP Video Card and Software were installed and tested.
And I have considered buying a new system, but just haven't made up my mind as to what I want or what I want to spend.  I had saved for a long time for this one and it has served my purpose just fine.  It may not be a big as some of the one out there, but has been good for me to learn on as this is my first one.  I am going to try and tear into this right after submitting to see if I can find some answers.
Again I thank you for all your efforts and trying to help
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by:TEG
ID: 8191764
OK - so the 3DFX Banshee is like the Voodoo3... It is a complete AGP card that has VGA functions and Vooodoo2 compatible 3D acceleration all on one board.  If you have a "banshee" card and are using i740 drivers that could be a big problem.  The fact that the i740 drivers loaded, and you can run 800x600 makes me think you don't have the Banshee at all, but the i740 like the QC checklist said.

Again - let us know what is written on the graphics card when you open up the system...
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by:grandma8
ID: 8192430
TEG,

I was WAY OFF.  I opened my system and found that I have a VGA i740 A3/8SDJ, Audio PCI (what was on the card) and a Creative-Ensoniq- Audio PCI 5200, Joystick MIDI.  So I definelty DO NOT have either a VOODOO 2 or 3.  Other numbers on the VGA card besides the i740 are CT7990600 087996, if the makes any difference.  Numbers on the Joy-stick Midi are ES 1373.  I don't know if this all makes sense to you or not.  It doesn't to me, but I did at least get to blow out my system and found I can get into it without worrying about screwing it up.  I wrote down every number if you should need them.
Thanks again and I'm sorry for all the searching you did considering I honestly believed it to be a Voodoo Card.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8192565
TEG,
Think my last post could be confusing, I found not joystick but JOYTECH. The video card IS a VGA i740 A3/8SDJ, then I found Audio PCI 9923, assy nno-07 Rev:A s.s.aa58207, then Creative-Ensoniq-Audio PCI-5200 part#4001045901 REV-A, ES1373 94V-O joy-stick midi, I hope this may help any confusion. I also found who make my modem Digitan) that keeps dialing twice before it will connect and now I can maybe find a cure for it too.
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by:TEG
ID: 8192610
Yeah - I already found out your graphics card from the first post.  It appears to be a Joytech VGA-i740A3/8SDJ.
There are specific drivers listed here:
http://www.video-drivers.com/drivers/23/23929.htm

(If you can download those drivers and install them instead of what you have now it might be helpful.)

I am hesitant to send you on too many "fishing expeditions", but it might also be worthwhile to upgrade your DirectX.
The 4.0 version is very old.
You can get directX 8 or 9 from this link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/downloads/drx80a.asp
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by:grandma8
ID: 8192756
TEG,

I have listed under "display adapter"  Intel740 Win9x PC#.OW 3.1.2029-9808829.  Are these one in the same thing?  Or is the VGA i740A3/8SDJ something different for doing something different?  Will take care of the direct X also

Thanks
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by:TEG
ID: 8193271
Your current drivers are probably a more "generic" version of the i740 drivers, but they are suitable for use on your card.
The only reason I suggest the Joytech drivers is in case there
is some "DVD enhancement" that isn't in the generic Intel
drivers, and if they are newer than the ones you have currently.

Did you say your current ones came off the supplied driver CD?

I am not saying that I know exactly how to fix your problem.  I am just suggesting to try to make sure we take care of various things that "could be" the problem.  Since you seem willing to keep updating things, hopefully we will soon hit upon something that makes a difference.

By the way  that Creative-Ensoniq-Audio PCI is a fairly common type of audio card.  It is/was typical to have an audio card that includes stereo in and out, as well as a MIDI port to control musical instruments (like a MIDI capable keyboard) as well as a Joystick port (for games) all on one card.
It doesn't sound like there is any issue with your audio.

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by:grandma8
ID: 8195476
TEG,

I downloaded the i740 drivers.  When I opened it, it asked me if I wanted it to over-ride the one that existed I chose Y=YES. It then proceeded to put at least 20 different files (?) on my desktop.  What did I do wrong?
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by:TEG
ID: 8196452
Did it ask you to pick a directory to install them?
Sometimes a driver installer will just unpack the files
to a temporary directory.  Then you look in that
directory for a "readme" type file with instructions on
how to install them.

Sometimes there is a "setup.exe" program you run, but
in the case of the drivers you just downloaded I think you
need to use this procedure:
Go into "control panel"->"system"->"device manager"->"Display Adapters",
double click on the currrent "i740" driver, pick the
"update drivers" tab, and then go through the driver
update menus.  When given a choice say "have disk"
then browse to the path where you just put the new drivers.
(You use the "browse" window to go to "desktop" and then
it should show a ".inf" file that is the file that controls
the installation of the drivers).  Once you do all that
and the drivers have been updated you can then remove
all the temporary install files from your desktop.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8196519
TEG,

Will do that right now.  I had already dowloaded the DirectX 8 and had them on my desk top but hadn't installed it.  I did that this morning.  
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by:grandma8
ID: 8196700
TEG,

Have installed the drivers--had to go into add/remove hardware. When doing so it told me I was installing files older than what are on my computer. It asked me if I wanted to keep them and I chose yes.  There were 2 and I loaded both. One was Gfx.vxd and the other Gfx829.sys.  Did I do the right thing?
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by:TEG
ID: 8196776
Even if these Joytech drivers are newer they may
contain some older components (than the generic driver
you were using).

Have you install DX8 yet?

If so, then try running the DVD player again and see
if it works any better now.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8196847
TEG,

I did install the DX8 first thing.  What I haven't done is to remove the 3 listings (named in beginning question) under "harddisk controllers". This is where my DVD was actually named as the Toshiba SD-M1212. And that is what I lost besides the ability to play DVD's when kids messed with this system.  I am going to try now to play a DVD to see what happens.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8196920
TEG,
NO GO will still not play a DVD. I also went into accessories and all that is there is CD no DVD. I don't honeslty know if this has always been like that or not.
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by:TEG
ID: 8198015
Can you describe a bit more what you mean by "No Go" ???

You do have the DVD player application, right?  What is it called?
When you "launch it" does it come up on the screen, but
then you can't find a way to play the DVD?

Or were you just inserting a DVD into the drive and waiting
for something to happen?
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by:grandma8
ID: 8198598
TEG,

I went into Programs-Accessories-Entertainment- there is only CD there, nothing about DVD.  I then went into Multimedia with the same results.  So I tried to get one (DVD) to play by clicking cd, nothing happened.  I don't know for sure what you mean by DVD player application.  I have searched everywhere on my system and can find nothing relating to DVD. Can I go into Device manager and remove CD-ROM and hope windows re-installs it. Or do I need to take out the 3 under "harddisk controllers"?
Thanks
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by:TEG
ID: 8198802
To get your DVD movie to play there needs to be some sort
of "player" software installed on your machine.  It sounds
like maybe that got removed along the way.

I am not sure which player they had originally installed
on your machine, but these are common ones:

1> PowerDVD
2> WinDVD
3> Cineplayer

You can download a trial version of PowerDVD from here:
http://www.downseek.com/download/2314.asp
if you can't find your original DVD player software.

If it turns out that the PowerDVD trial does work to play
your movies, then you may need to spend a little bit
(perhaps $25) to buy a full version of some DVD player software.
The PowerDVD trial software will play a movie for half
an hour then popup some message saying "please buy the
full program".
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by:grandma8
ID: 8198903
TEG

I put in my Win98 installation disk and click "Browse". I then went into "drivers" and found DVD listed. I click properties to see what what there and found 2 listed. One is luxsonor and the other is quadrant.  Do you think it would do me any good to try and install either of these?  Also why is my DVD-Rom being recognized as a CD-ROM?
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by:TEG
ID: 8199111
I think LuxSonor and Quadrant were hardware DVD cards that were installed in some PCs.  It doesn't sound like your PC has either of these so it would not be appropriate to install either of those drivers.


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by:grandma8
ID: 8199205
TEG

Thanks, I have managed to find drivers for my model DVD from DriverSearch.com but, there are so many of them (6)I don't know which to download to use especially as it is still working as a cd-rom. I think one is for WinXP so I know I can't use that.
I can't believe all the time you have spent trying to help me get this "obsolete" system working right again. It means a lot and is so greatly appreciated.  I believe others would have given up by now.  I am considering a new system but just don't know whic to get I do want a Pent.IV but I don't want XP-(has taken me long enough to learn Win98. I do a lot of Photo printing so want something that is good.  And the grandkids like to play games with a lot of grpahics and action.
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by:TEG
ID: 8199206
Toshiba did sell some DVD kits that included the DVD drive
mechanism, and a special PCI card that would do the
DVD video decoding.  See the following URL for an example:
http://www.cdaccess.com/html/pc/tosh1002.htm

From your descriptions of your system it doesn't sound
like you have any DVD "decoder" hardware.  That is why
I am suggesting that you try one of the newer software
DVD player packages.

You expect to be able to play the DVD on the computer
screen, right?  There is no output on your PC that you
would plug into a TV set, right?

====================================================
Toshiba Germany has the Toshiba DVD player software
availble for download here:
http://support.toshiba-tro.de/internet/info/Newslett/tro0712.htm
*BUT* - like I said - you shouldn't use their software
unless you actually had a Toshiba DVD decoder card in
your system.

=====================================================

I have some Win98 systems where the DVD drive doesn't show
up in the device manager, but DVDs play just fine.
Your system can show devices as "generic IDE" devices
(even if it doesn't have an exact driver to describe it)
and still make use of it.

At this point I suggest you try the PowerDVD trial and
see if you can run it, open the DVD device and play
a movie...

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by:grandma8
ID: 8199548
TEG

I again went through the Hardware driver CD I received with my system just to see if there are any "decoders" for Toshiba. All I found these= 1. Toshiba 4x - 24x IDE for DosMode V 1.6087 and then under "other" I found Toshiba DVD Daughter for Win95 Ver. 2.5 it is a DVD\DECODER\Toshiba DVD Daughter\DISK1.  All the drivers that were on this system were for Win95.  I'm sure they "updated" them once installed for Win98.  I will try the PowerDVD and see what happens.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8199760
TEG,
I downloaded the PowerDVD and it worked just fine.  I can't say for sure but I think it was Cineplayer that was on here.

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by:TEG
ID: 8199846
Worked just fine?  As in it played your DVD movie on the screen?

That sounds good - are you happy with the results?

I would recommend you buy a copy of PowerDVD anyways as
it is easier to use, and tends to be able to play some DVDs
that other players have trouble playing properly.

These guys advertise it for $5.99:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3600815653

Or these guys have PowerDVD3 for $17.50:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/protape/powdvdbycyb.html

(if you have trouble with the eBay vendor)

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by:grandma8
ID: 8200066
TEG,

I will think about it (buying the PowerDVD3) Am going to let the grandkids SUFFER for a while.  I just wish I knew what they did.  I hope they learned a lesson. They watched movies on my system all the time when they are here as I don't have a reqular DVD player.  They are going to have to wait!!!!.
You have been so wonderful in trying to resolve what a couple of KNOW IT ALL kids did.  I don't know what these "points" are all about but as far as I'm concerned they belong to you. Could you possibly help me with my modem? It is a Digitan Fax/data/voice PCI modem.  It works but it will dial twice before it will connect.
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TEG earned 1500 total points
ID: 8200420
If you want to give me the points, please do!  I can use them to ask my own questions when I get stuck!

You need to "accept" one of my answers...

I would guess that your modem issues may be related to your ISP (Internet Service Provider).  Is it literally "twice" (always fails the first time, always works the 2nd time), or does it just seem like about 50% of the time it doesn't work?

If the latter, it is probably because your ISP has a mix of modems, some of which aren't compatible with yours.  When you call the same # it sends you to a pool/bank of modems on their end and your modem may not sync up with some of their modems.  If you keep redialing you eventually get one that links to your modem.

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by:stevemjp
ID: 8225745
regarding the modem. check to see if it dials an atlernative number.

it may be that the first number it dials is not working and the it fails over to the second number which does connect.
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by:grandma8
ID: 8228529
stevemip,

I tried that but no matter what number I try to use it will dial it twice. There are only 2 here that I can use.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it but it still does the same thing.

Thank you
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by:TEG
ID: 8229190
Can you "accept" one of my earlier answers on the DVD problem?
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by:Arjun1
ID: 8727450
Hello,

' Grandma8 ' got Game.

She aint coming back no mo'.

Proly busy watching all the DVD movies that she missed when her computer acted up.

:>)
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by:TEG
ID: 8727630
Yeah - I was hoping for those points!

I hope she didn't get eaten by the big bad wolf...
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by:grandma8
ID: 8728331
Teg & Arjun1,

Haven't gone anywhere, just been busy and hadn't heard from anyone for so long.  Still not able to get my DVD to play movies, plays audio just fine.  Am getting so frustrated with these problems
of the DVD player and the modem.  But want to thank you all for your all your hard work in trying to help this ole lady remedy them.  I'm still trying to get things back to where they were, am beginning to think I never will.  
Thanks for not forgetting about me.

Grandma
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