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Hi

I have a laptop with an external cd-rom, but no floppy. Although I can select cd-boot in bios, it does not appear to be working. I want to install windows 2000 on my new harddrive (20GB), which is completely blank and not formatted. The only option left appears to be network boot.

From what I understand, this has something to do with DHCP or such, so it might be relevant to mention that i have another winxp pc on my network running a dhcp server.

When I choose network boot in bios, it loads up Managed PC Boot Agent (MBA) v4.00. Boot method can be either TCP/IP, Netware, PXE or RPL.

Now where do I go from here?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.
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Question by:metellius
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by:ryanskev
ID: 8152444
Choose TCP/IP, but you need to have Remote Installation Service (RIS) Running on the server machine. Another thing I had trouble with is it only supports a few network cards and none of our Intel PXE jobs would work with it, but after about two weeks of trying and retrying, they just did. No idea why, though. Good luck! Ry.
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by:metellius
ID: 8152514
i'm afraid i'll need a little more explanation than that... do I install RIS on the computer with the dhcp server? how does ris work?
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by:metellius
ID: 8152553
i'm afraid i'll need a little more explanation than that... do I install RIS on the computer with the dhcp server? how does ris work?
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by:ryanskev
ID: 8152709
To install RIS, you need to be running a Server Operating System (I assume you are else you wouldn't have a DHCP Server). You just run Add remove programs from the control panel and click add windows component and it should be listed. After that, run add/remove programs again and add/remove windows component and there should now be an option to configure it.

It works like the CD only over a network. Very handy if you can get it to work.

Failing this, you can download the four setup boot disks from http://www.bootdisk.com/

-- Ry.
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by:metellius
ID: 8153026
i will try that and accept your answer if it works. I'm runnin windows xp professional on the pc with the dhcp server.
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by:metellius
ID: 8153069
i will try that and accept your answer if it works. I'm runnin windows xp professional on the pc with the dhcp server.
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by:metellius
ID: 8153073
sorry about the double comments, i keep forgetting that i shouldn't reload
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by:ryanskev
ID: 8153100
No problem.

Hope it helps.

Ry.
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by:ryanskev
ID: 8153211
No problem.

Hope it helps.

Ry.
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by:Mcscotsman
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Get a floppy drive. You need a floppy to use the four w2k installation disks. You need a floppy to access RIS unless your NIC is PXE compliant, in which your problem will be solved, until you need to use a floppy disk. Good luck metallica.
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by:metellius
ID: 8154299
my nic IS PXE compliant. at least i think so. and if i had a floppy i wouldn't need remote installation since i could just use the boot disks and install win2k.
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by:metellius
ID: 8154470
my nic IS PXE compliant. at least i think so. and if i had a floppy i wouldn't need remote installation since i could just use the boot disks and install win2k.
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by:metellius
ID: 8154916
i've been trying for a while now, but i can't find RIS on my winxp server, seems it's not available for installation... Isn't there some small app that starts a PXE boot server or something, which let's my laptop use the cd-rom over the network? basically that's all I need!
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by:Mcscotsman
ID: 8155401
My point was that a floppy drive will not only come in handy today but in the future as well- probably worth getting but anyhow... RIS is run on a w2k server not xp (server?). Install through add/remove programs windows components. This may be more than you want to deal with. PXE is a function of your NIC- not your CD-ROM. I wonder why your CD is not booting? Does it boot on another system? Is your boot order configured correctly? People often have the following:

1st floppy
2nd cd-rom
3rd PXE compliant NIC
4th Hard disk

Make sure that CD-ROM comes before the hard disk. If it is a copy, it may not have copied the files necessary to be bootable.

Another thing:

If you chose to boot with TCP/IP, it would probably get a DHCP address, right? You can then map a drive to a share that contained the i386 directory- oh shoot- you still have to format that drive first. I'm not sure but maybe you can use the fdisk and format commands from the share. Worth a try. Probably the easiest thing besides a ..... nevermind.

And then:

Is there a chance that you can put that disk into another system, format, and copy the i386 directory to it, and then install it into your lt?
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by:aftershoq
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Hopefully your NIC is NOT a PCMCIA card, because they are not support for RIS.  You need to have one built into the laptop.  good luck.
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by:metellius
ID: 8157042
My NIC is NOT a pcmcia card, it is embedded into the docking station, so i can actually use it when I boot. i know, ive tried. also, i know how to use the boot device order and my cd-rom is actually ranked first boot device, but it still won't boot the cd-rom. I suspect it's because it's external, connected to the pcmcia port.

the idea about mapping a share to a cd-rom sounds like just what i've been looking for, i'll try it later today.
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by:metellius
ID: 8157048
but how do I tell the laptop when it boots into tcp/ip, where to find that share containing the i386 and boot files?
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by:metellius
ID: 8160383
although not exactly the answer i was looking for, it was the comment that helped me the most
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by:Mcscotsman
ID: 8160742
Metellius-

If your system boots using TCP-IP, you should be able to ping another device on your network. So pick a device (server1) and share and copy the i386 directory to one of it's hard disks. Then share that copied directory as say (i386). For simplicity, make sure that there are no special rights assigned to this share, just allow everyone. You should copy "fdisk" and "format" to the dame directory. Hopefully your boot utility has provided you with some commands such as:

net use g: \\server1\i386 <enter>

g:\cd i386 <>

g:\i386 (Find fdisk and use it. Then boot back into TCP/IP and do the same net use command and format your disk. Then:

g:\i386\winnt <>

Hope this helps you a bit more. Remember to make sure that you can ping the IP address of your server1, and if I were you, when using the net use command, enter the IP address instead of the (server1).


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