MISSING IFSMGR.VXD + IOS.VXD---------> need help !

Hi all !

I need a little help. My son deleted a few system files while he was deleting his games from my comp.

I need two of them, but I cant find them.

- WIN 98 doesn't start.
- CD rom does not start.
- Under dos, I don't know the name and the dir. of the dustbin (anyway, without WIN I cant recover the files from the dustbin)

- Is there anybody who can tell me how can I find those files under dos (and what are the dos commands to copy them ?)

or

- Is there anybody who can send me those files ? (they are small) e-mail to : ramworld1984@hotmail.com


Thank you guys in advance !

RamPeti

PS forgive my bad English, I am from Hungary
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war1Commented:
Greetings, RamPeti!
   Download ifsmgr.vxd from here

http://computer-help.com/dc2.htm

Ios.vxd from here

http://www.linkscomputersupport.co.uk/win95ud.htm

If the above does not work, install Windows over itself. You will not lose data, even though you should always back up your data.

Boot up with the Windows CD. If the CD is not bootable, boot up with a startup disk. If you don't have one, download one from www.bootdisk.com . Type setup or E:\setup , where E is your CD-ROM drive.


Best wishes, war1
RamPetiAuthor Commented:
HELLO war1 !


Thank you for he fast reply.

I have still two problems.

- The http://www.linkscomputersupport.co.uk/win95ud.htm site is for WIN 95 not for WIN 98.
And I could not find the right WIN 98 file on this site. (and after one hour search I still cant find a file like this on the net)

- The first link was correct, but the file is HTML; so I copied the txt in a block-note, and I saved on a floppy as the original name-ifsmgr.vxd file , then I copied on my comp. But it still asks for the same file. Off course, I checked the c: windows/system/vmm32 dir, and the new file is there.

About the reinstall of WIN my problem is, that (as I mentioned) my comp does not see the CD rom drive, only the floppy drive.

So; as I cant find the right files on the net to copy them on a floppy to copy them on my comp., and as I  have the WIN98 CD but all files are compressed and I cant get just the ifsmgr+ios files from it, I am stucked or what.  

My dear war1, would you be so kind to find out something ?  
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And off course, anyone who can mail me the WIN 98 IFSMGR.VXD + IOS.VXD files, or can help me anyway, I will be very grateful !

Thank you  BYE !
war1Commented:
RamPeti,
   I tried to find the Windows 98 file, but could not. I have Windows ME, and don't have one of those on my computer or I would send them to you.

You can boot up with a disk that has CDROM support. Get one from www.bootdisk.com.

Also, your system files may be in your computer.  You can run setup from there.  At the DOS prompt, type C:\windows\options\cabs\setup or C:\windows\options\install\setup.
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debiansidCommented:
if you know the right filenames then you can search for them on http://www.filesearching.com

They would normally not show win95 versions as only ftp servers hosting them are shown and these days nobody would think of running web servers on win95.

Hope that helps.
MrAlaskaCommented:
I sent you a the files I had on my system by the same name, but I do not know what version of 98 you have or whether they are compatible. I am using 98SE retail version.

It seems, though, that you should be able to access your CDROM using a good bootdisk.
war1Commented:
MrAlaska,
  Thanks for sending the files. It's better to use the files than to reformat.

MrAlaskaCommented:
I hope the files are ther right ones to do the trick and getting them back in place does not end up spawning new errors of more files not found.

Finding them with DOS in the recycle bin might be a nightmare if there have been a lot of files deleted. I suppose, since you know the size of the files, you could use that as an aid but I just navigated a dos window to c:\recycled and it appears windows renames them once deleted. Once you are in the c:\recycled folder and feel you have the right file you could copy them to the proper folder ( copy filename.vxd c:\windows\system\vmm32 ) but then you would need to rename them back to the original name. ( rename c:\windows\system\vmm32\wrongname.vxd rightname.vxd )

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MrAlaskaCommented:
Of course, the Hungarian version of Windows might call it 'dustbin' instead of 'recycled' for all I know.
RamPetiAuthor Commented:
THX for every nice person here for your help !

I will try all the solutions right now ( even it is 2 a.m. here) !

Will let you know ASAP !




RamPetiAuthor Commented:
HI ALL !


First of all, I would like to thank to everyone for their help. You are all very nice !

So, I tryed the solution of Mr war1, but those files were different from mine.

To say the truth, Mr Alaska gaved me the bigest help, with that symple fact, that he gaved me
the path: c:recycled   ..........  WHY ? Because you believe or not, but under dos, if I type c:dir
it does not appears on the screen (the dir recycled) but every other dir appears on the screen,
but if I type c:cd:recycled   it changes to c:recycled . Anyone has an idea why ? ( may be it is a dumb question but I have no idea)

So, Mr alaska were right , WIN renames the origin. files, but after their size I replaced them.

BUT (even there is no more error msg that refers to those files) my comp gave me the following error msg : ( I try to translate )

"
-There was a problem during the initialization of the int13 hardware.
-It has 10 VXD dinamique connection call that refers to 10 different XXXX (hardware or smthng)
-Invalid WIN config , try to reinstall WIN  (I cant, dont have the right disk here)
"
 
So, I tried to find this int13 hardware, and I've found this: c:windows\system.ini --->
under [386Enh]    in the sixth row : "device=*int13"  I dont know whats that but I deleted, and tried to run WIN but the same ERROR msg appaers on the screen.

QUESTIONS:

- Anyone knows what is int13 ?
- How can I remove it from WIN system files to stop WIN to refer it at startup ?

Originally this was the content of the the VMM32 folder (after my son): 4 VXD files for my HP 840 C printer , ifsmgr , ios, and 1 VXD for my mouse. After the incident the folder was empty. I replaced the  ifsmgr , ios, and 1 VXD file for mouse, but as I dont know the original names of the HP files, and I cant find any VXD file on the HP install disk, I could not replace them.
May be the int13 is the printer, but I am not sure. What s that : 10 VXD dinamique connection call that refers to 10 different smthng ? It seems to be tooooo much for a printer, is'nt it ?

So, I am really grateful for you help. I will need my files for monday for my job, or my boss will be pissed of !

Thank you guys in advance, and sorry for the long letter; I just want to give every info. properly.

CIAO   Peter
MrAlaskaCommented:
I am afraid I have no help to offer on the  int13 issue, if I were in your shoes I would be concentrating on trying to get onto my D: drive so I can reinstall the O.S. Is it possible your CDROM drive has unique drivers? Perhaps you can find a bootup disk from a similar machine or find the CDROM drivers and add them to the boot disk?

How big are the work files you need off the C: drive? Are you able to navigate to them and copy them to floppies using DOS? If they are not terribly large, I am pretty sure it is possible to split them with DOS, but I have never done it.

The recycle folder being hidden from DOS sounds like something I read on this page:
http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml
MrAlaskaCommented:
int13 appears to be a default setting from what I can find on Google. I see it mentioned all over the place, but not talked about much, especially in a W98 context. It appears to have been with us since 3.1 and seems to be related to the hard drive.
computermaster_zCommented:
At first,you can boot your computer to safe mode,if ok,then it's a small problem.
If won't,you can boot computer with bootlog(F8-the second item),and with to stop,open "bootlog.txt"(c:\,and the attrib is hidden),to see what files was not loaded.
RamPetiAuthor Commented:
Mr Alaska - Mr war1

Sorry to disturb you, but my comp still asks for :
"
-There was a problem during the initialization of the int13 hardware.
-It has 10 VXD dinamique connection call that refers to 10 different XXXX (hardware or smthng)
-Invalid WIN config , try to reinstall WIN  (I cant, dont have the right disk here)
"

Any idea ?

The only problem that I have one WIN98 disc but not mine as I work abroad (France) and I dont have friends to ask for an other one, and this WIN98 cd gives me only an error msg that the version on the CD does not correspond to my version on the comp, so it does not work.

What if I uninstall the old version ( it seems to be possible under DOS) WIN98 and I try to reinstall the one on the CD ? Will I loose all my datas ? (txt files, pics...etc...) ? I am affraid.


war1Commented:
RamPeti,
>> What if I uninstall the old version ( it seems to be possible under DOS) WIN98
>> and I try to reinstall the one on the CD ? Will I loose all my datas ? (txt
>> files, pics...etc...) ? I am affraid.

If you uninstall first, you will lose data.  If you reinstall on top of the existing files, you will not lose data, even though you should always back up your data.

Boot up with the Windows CD. If the CD is not bootable, boot up with a startup disk. If you don't have one, download one from www.bootdisk.com . Type setup or E:\setup , where E is your CD-ROM drive.
MrAlaskaCommented:
The error message you are getting from the CD is not the same error message as this page, but I wonder if this is where Windows is getting the information and this fix might help you out also:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;225252
MrAlaskaCommented:
You might also have a problem with the product key, but you probably cannot run regedit so capturing it from system.dat and user.dat might be a chore. I hope you have your product key, or maybe windows won't notice...
MrAlaskaCommented:
Assuming you get that far, and if the product key issue pops up, don't sweat it. The key is buried in both user.dat and system.dat. It is easier to find in system.dat simply by opening in an edit window [edit c:\windows\system.dat] and searching for 'productkey'. That is the theory. On my system, however, I could only load 80% of it before I ran out of memory. The key is also buried in user.dat but I could see nothing indentifiable to search for, so it would be a bit tedious picking through looking for something that resembles a product ID.

Bear in mind that fooling around with Windows you always run the risk of losing data. Back up whatever you are able using DOS.
RamPetiAuthor Commented:
Hi ALL !

I suppose, that I f***d up this WINDOWS thing.

I assume: I replaced from the recycle dir the original files, and the error msg dissapeared when I try to start WIN,,,,,,,,,,,thats cool,

BUT I still have the error msg that asks for int13 ......... euhhhhh...........

Whatever I do; nothing works. I have two solutions left:

- To get the right WIN98  CD which refers to my version, may be it will reinstall WIN98
or
- c:format...................but I don t like this solution

Anyway, after I format the C drive, what s happening ? I am affraid even the dos will be deleted, or ?


Thank you all guys for your time, and help !

I will wait one day for the answer of my last question, then I will split the points between Mr Alaska and Mr war1 .

MrAlaskaCommented:
Did you try that last link to Microsoft I left? It appears that is where Windows is getting the version info, and applying their proposed solution might do the trick.

format C: will indeed wipe out your files completely. There are data recovery applications you can try if you end up going that route, but they are unreliable. If you *do* end up reformatting come back here and ask for help with data recovery before you start using the drive.

Actually, if I were you I would probably remove the hard drive and try to hook it up as a slave on another box to try to recover the files before I re-formatted.
MrAlaskaCommented:
As far as DOS getting wiped out, the format command usually adds a copy of DOS to the disk to make it bootable I think. You used to force that behavior with the /s switch, but I think it is automatic on modern systems. That's my understanding, I could have it screwed up.
RamPetiAuthor Commented:
Sorry guys, cant split points. I thank for everybody their help and I will give the points to Mr alaska as he gaved me the best ideas twice. But I must say that if it would be possible I would give points to Mr war1 too.

Thank you guys !      Peter
MrAlaskaCommented:
I take it you were not able to make it work, yet? That sucks.

As far as points, I think you have to go to the community forum and request a split but I have never really figured out the whole point thing around here.

At any rate, I have plenty of question points so I can post a question for War1 that way we both make out. What grade were you going to give him? :>)
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Win98/Q_20641505.html
CLMaggioCommented:
I have an old instrument running Windows 95 and also deleted some necessary files as the OP did. Although I currently cannot access either link below due to work filters, it seems that the first link (for the ifsmgr.vxd file) provided earlier and copied below is no longer valid---can anyone point me to another possible site for downloading?

Greetings, RamPeti!
   Download ifsmgr.vxd from here

http://computer-help.com/dc2.htm

Ios.vxd from here

http://www.linkscomputersupport.co.uk/win95ud.htm
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