Tookoolkris,

I idea here is Microsoft after intergrating all the video and audio conferencing feature in its MSN messenger 6.0 or Windows messenger didnot want people to use other program like Netmeeting.

So that's why you will not see netmeeting under Communications when you go through Start --> Programs --> Accessories.

However, Netmeeting can be used for Remote desktop sharing and other applications ..

Check out these links

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/netmeeting/download/nm301x86.asp

http://www.meetingbywire.com/NetMeeting3.htm

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/windowstips/story/0,24330,3309782,00.html


HTH,
Sunray

Because Netmeeting is already installed on XP machines.

Do this on one of your machines:

START | RUN | Conf.exe

Netmeeting will startup.

Sorry. Didn't read all of your post. Please ignore my previous post.

GEM

Thanks fellas but I wasn't asking for links and more info on NetMeeting, I asked a simple question. How do you get it to install? I'm aware of how to get it to run and that its already on the pc. I need to re-install it with preset configurations and it's telling me that it doesn't run on XP when it already is running on XP, understand?

If Microsoft didn't want you to use it then maybe they shouldn't have put it in the XP build! This herding tactic that MS uses to force you into using specific programs instead of allowing you to choose is exactly why their ass is court today!

TooKoolKris,

When you see the first link that I have sent it clearly says that Netmeeting is not for windows xp.
That is the reason why you cannot install it in win xp or even in win xp pro.

Check this one

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_n.htm#netmtg

http://www.theeldergeek.com/netmeeting.htm

HTH,
Sunray

I don't care what it says because NetMeeting 3 comes with XP Pro!! That is not the reason why you can't install it, thats just the BS excuse MS uses because they want you to use another product!

You seem intelligent enough...so I'll give you a little hint. Don't use the Deployment Kit. The Netmeeting 3 resource kit is for 95, 98, ME, and 2K...NOT for XP.

GPEDIT | Computer Configuration | Windows Component | NetMeeting
GPEDIT | User Configuration | Windows Components | Netmeeting

Windows XP comes with administrative templates that can define all the proper policies that the operating system supports.

Yea, it looks like I'm going to be forced to do with the GPO's, there was just a lot more flexablilty with the resource kit. Our company actually pays for a full-time consultant from Microsoft to sit here and deal with these types of problems and even he couldn't come with an answer for this one! You should have seen the look on his face when I told him to get Balmer on the phone, lol. I was just wondering if anybody had found a work around or something.

Well the question was how to get the NetMeeting 3.0 Resource Kit to work with XP. I pointed out that it wasn't made for XP...but if the questionairre feels that my suggestion was not acceptable I can live with that.

I am making the same point that netmeeting is not for windows xp as gemarti

Sunray

Well that point is wrong because whether or not Netmeeting 3 is for XP or not it is on XP, and my question wasn't whether or not is was meant for XP it was "So what is going on here? If XP can run NetMeeting 3.01 why can't I install 3.01 on the machines?" Giving me the answer of "It's not meant for XP" is not acceptable. Microsoft's web page says to use it themselves and the MS consultant I have here on site says the same thing. So, until I get a straight answer from someone I'm not handing out any points!

Here see for yourself Netmeeting 3.01 comes with XP, MS doesn't want you using the product so they don't put it in the menu. It's on the machine none the less. So telling me that "Its not for XP" is not only un-acceptable but WRONG!

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298327

My question still remains:

If NetMeeting 3 runs and is on XP, why can't I install NetMeeting 3 on a XP machine?

Now you answer this question to MY satisfaction and I'll accept your answer, I'm not accepting anything less.

Well I didn't really have a problem if you got your points back. The deployment kit development team probably did not have XP in mind when it developed the SDK/RK.
Read the first paragraph of this page it does not mention XP:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/NetMeeting/Corp/reskit/Part2/default.asp

It doesn't say that "It's not for XP" either does it?

I don't want or need your points. I'm only the #9 Expert on this site and I'll never catch up with one of the guy's on this page, but you wish to be difficult. I imagine I can be difficult as well.

Suppose you owned a Ford Mustang. Would you agree that it runs on gasoline?
Now suppose you go to the gas station and put Desiel fuel in the Mustang. There is nothing at the gas pump that says it isn't intended for Ford Mustangs so you fill it up.  

Would you expect the Ford Mustang to run normally because you put Desiel fuel in it?

My point is that when the SDK was made, perphaps XP wasn't yet a product for sale on the retail shelf. The last update to the page I posted above was December 10, 1999. To my recollection XP wasn't even in beta testing at that time.

Fact is the SDK/RK isn't going to work.

I standby gemarti in this issue.Only thing is ofcourse you cannot fill Diesel in Ford mustang if it is a gasoline vehicle as
at the first place itself the deisel pump knob would not even go inside the fuel tank entrance .(just kidding!!!)

We are just trying to lead to a solution that netmeeting is not for windows xp and the links that we have send correctly
proves it .

Looks clearly that you are not satisfied with answers so i would suggest you to post this question in the forums of Microsoft or email directly customer service at microsoft to get the perfect answer or talk with the people who wrote windows xp code.

I am not interested in points but all trying to get this issue resolved

Sunray

>>>This must be one of Microsoft's sick jokes.

That is precisely what it is. There may be some configurations within the files that Netmeeting uses that won't let it be directly installed on XP. The one you are using from that kit probably isn't configured with the appropriate files for it to work on XP. The one that comes with XP probably has in one or more files functions that are specific to XP but are missing from the kit you are using.

We all know that MS is prone to doing this from time to time like the WMP 8 version that comes with XP was or supposedly was made specifically to run only on XP. I suspect MS is going to phase out Netmeeting and replace it with something else by the time Longhorn is released. Or only make it so it will only run on the most newly released versions of Windows like Win2003 and Longhorn.

Why don't you convene a senate oversight committee while your at it!

I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO DETERMINE MY SATISFACTION AND DECIDE WHO I DO AND DON'T GIVE POINTS TO? REMIND ME WHY I DON'T HELP ON THIS FREAKIN SITE NO MORE WILL YOU?

All of that is fine, however my original question hasn't been answered to my satisfaction nor even close to it. There is no difference between the version that is currently on XP and the version that the resource kit tries to install so once again your assumption is WRONG! You hand out my points against my wishes and I'll never help another idiot on this site again!

TooKoolKris there appears to be a difference between the two or MS has purposely crippled it so it couldn't be installed on XP.  Either way it is pretty obvious that MS has made it so it won't intall on XP. It looks as though 3.01 has been out a long time and it also as was stated in one of those links that MS is trying to push people away from using Netmeeting.  And the message that the installer is giving you is a pretty strong indicator that this has been done on purpose. Why is that so hard to understand. Your own MS consultant doesn't know how to get around this, seems to me that if there was legitimate way to get around this the consultant would be providing you with that information.

Man, you people are something else. CAN'T ANY ONE READ PLAIN FREAKIN ENGLISH!!! WOULD IT HELP IF I PUT IT IN GERMAN OR CHINESE OR SOMETHING?

FOR THE LAST TIME - MY QUESTION IS WHY? NOT HOW, NOT WHAT, NOT WHERE, NOT WHEN, BUT FREAKING WHY?

WHY CAN'T I INSTALL IT WHEN IT IS ALREADY ON THE MACHINE, I WANT A REASON WHY. IF NOBODY CAN TELL ME WHY THEN NO ONE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, HENCE MY ATTEMPT TO GET IT DELETED.

AND FOR THE NEXT <edited by moderator> THAT COMES IN HERE TO EXPLAIN TO ME THAT IT WASN'T MEANT FOR XP, SAVE YOUR FREAKING BREATH!

I DONT WANT ASSUMPTIONS. I DONT WANT WHAT YOU THINK, I DON'T WANT YOUR HYPOTHESIS, I DON'T WANT YOUR GUESS. I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T INSTALL A PRODUCT THAT IS ALREADY INSTALLED, IT'S THAT SIMPLE!

IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY THEN SHUTUP POSTING ON THIS THREAD!

TooKoolKris you are bordering on unacceptable behaviour here. If you continue I will turn this question over to an admin and you can deal them and explain your behaviour.

As far as why it can't be installed you have been told several times why it cant. "This version of NetMeeting doesn't run on this version of Windows". Seems pretty simple to me. Nowhere on MS does it say that  the resource kit is installable on XP. And as already previously been stated MS is trying to move people away from netmeeting. Again I do not know why you can't understand that when it seems clear to everybody else. MS doesn't want to support Netmeeting. Don't you think it is odd there isn't any service patches or upgrades to the pordcut for several years. That says volumes about the intent MS has in mind for it. They don't want people installing on any OS past Windows 2000.

SerCouWisMOD
Community Support Moderator

Although this is for Windows Server 2003. I believe that the same is for XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323348

NOTE: The steps to remove and then reinstall NetMeeting may be required when you try to install other versions of NetMeeting on a Windows Server 2003-based system. At this time, the only supported version of NetMeeting for Windows Server 2003 is the version that installs as part of the operating system.

Newer versions of NetMeeting recognize this supportability issue and do not install on a Windows Server 2003-based system -- for example, NetMeeting 3.0 Service Pack 2 (SP2). However, older versions of NetMeeting (for example NetMeeting 2.11) do try to install on a Windows Server 2003-based system. Although the NetMeeting 2.11 installation process may complete, the Windows File Protection feature will then try to rewrite the correct files. That process can cause the following issues:

SerCouWisMOD
Community Support Moderator

Ok this is what I found out. The version that is on Win2000 is 3.01 (4.4.3385) and the one on XP is 3.01 (4.4.3400). And I suspect the that 3.01 (4.4.3385) is the version that the resource kit is using. Therefore they are two different versions.

Okay. At this point I'm making an educated guess at why. Since the diesel fuel in a gas engine didn't sink in nor did the square peg in a round hole help you.

Have you ever heard of the feature "Windows File Protection?" (Not that I know if you would get this type of message if you tried to install a Windows component from W2K on an XP image)


Here are the files from a W2K Image (Netmeeting 3.01(4.4.0.3385)
You'll note that there is clearly a difference in Creation date's and size!

 Volume in drive C is W2K
 Volume Serial Number is C805-9C4B

 Directory of C:\Program Files\NetMeeting

06/21/2003  02:50 AM    <DIR>          .
06/21/2003  02:50 AM    <DIR>          ..
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            21,260 Blip.wav
07/22/2002  03:05 PM           392,976 callcont.dll
06/04/2003  05:56 PM             4,851 CallLog.dat
12/07/1999  08:00 AM             4,880 cb32.exe
07/22/2002  03:05 PM           659,216 conf.exe
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            32,016 confmrsl.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            36,624 dcap32.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            40,208 h323cc.dll
07/22/2002  03:05 PM           247,568 mst120.dll
07/22/2002  03:05 PM            39,696 mst123.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM           201,488 nac.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            29,441 netmeet.htm
12/07/1999  08:00 AM           212,240 nmas.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM             8,976 nmasnt.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            64,784 nmchat.dll
07/22/2002  03:05 PM            62,224 nmcom.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM           136,464 nmft.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM           151,824 nmoldwb.dll
12/07/1999  08:00 AM           176,912 nmwb.dll
07/13/2003  05:33 PM    <DIR>          Received Files
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            45,840 rrcm.dll
06/22/2002  01:08 PM    <DIR>          SpeedDial
12/07/1999  08:00 AM            79,002 TestSnd.wav
12/07/1999  08:00 AM             4,880 wb32.exe
              22 File(s)      2,653,370 bytes
               4 Dir(s)   2,258,874,368 bytes free

and XP Image (Netmeeting Version 3.01 (4.4.0.3400)
 Volume in drive G is WindowsXP
 Volume Serial Number is E054-5B52

 Directory of G:\Program Files\NetMeeting

09/20/2002  08:21 PM    <DIR>          .
09/20/2002  08:21 PM    <DIR>          ..
08/23/2001  08:00 AM            21,260 Blip.wav
08/29/2002  03:40 AM           360,448 callcont.dll
09/25/2002  03:38 AM               503 CallLog.dat
08/23/2001  08:00 AM            12,288 cb32.exe
08/29/2002  03:41 AM           995,328 conf.exe
08/23/2001  08:00 AM            45,056 confmrsl.dll
08/29/2002  03:40 AM            40,960 dcap32.dll
08/29/2002  03:40 AM            53,248 h323cc.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM           249,856 mst120.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM            49,152 mst123.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM           208,896 nac.dll
08/23/2001  08:00 AM            29,441 netmeet.htm
08/29/2002  03:41 AM           217,088 nmas.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM            20,480 nmasnt.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM            77,824 nmchat.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM            69,632 nmcom.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM           143,360 nmft.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM           163,840 nmoldwb.dll
08/29/2002  03:41 AM           180,224 nmwb.dll
09/01/2002  10:14 AM    <DIR>          Received Files
08/29/2002  03:41 AM            57,344 rrcm.dll
08/23/2001  08:00 AM            79,002 TestSnd.wav
08/23/2001  08:00 AM            12,288 wb32.exe
              22 File(s)      3,087,518 bytes
               3 Dir(s)     285,696,000 bytes free

"I will split the points betweeen sunray_2003 and gemarti without response from in the next 48 hours. If there is a response, I will forward this question to administration and have them speak with you, and while I won't even mention it they won't be too happy regarding your behavior either."

Ask me if I give a dam, chump.

You want to take my points, that belong to me, that I earned and hand them out against my wishes?

YOU WILL PAY FOR IT and I'll let you and the rest of your slackies use their imagination as to how that will happen, take that to the bank amigo!

For being "TooKool" you sure do have a temper.
Damn homey why don't you go take a cold shower before you try to jump through your monitor and hurt yourself.

Anyway what I see is somebody who brokedown.
You gave up your points even though you didn't want to give them away. LOL

Damn...you got me ROTFLOL like a fool.

This has got to be the funniest post I've ever seen.

Try this.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q267958

It pop up [first name, last name] Windows, so I guess is 'reinstall'.
Hope this help.