PC anywhere with win98 and XP

I have an ADSL router\modem connecting a Win98 Desktop to a WinXP laptop. Both share my ADSL internet connection.

My intention is to monitor the 98 machine from the XP machine using PCanywhere 11. This is so that I can monitor the activity of my kids remotely when on the internet.

I have disabled Zone alarm, and disconnected the ADSL line temporarily while I have no firewall.

The two machines are in the same workgroup, with shared folders. I can see the resources on the other machine from both ends.

When I run PCanywhere on the XP machine, from the quick deploy and connect icon, I can see the 98 machine in the list. I double click the icon in pcanywhere to connect to it. It prompts with a box domain\username and password.

What do I fill in here? I've tried all combinations of machine names and usernames with passwords, and every time is says no network available, yet it lists the machine!

I even set up a user account on both machines with the same user password combination.

Just seems stupid that I can list the machine in PCA, share resources with it in Network Neighbourhood, but not establish a connection in PCA.

Am I overlooking something fundamental?

Thanks in advance.
wbowmanAsked:
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NacMacFeegleCommented:
Have you set up a username and password in the options of the network connection? This neds to be done on the Win98 machine. Open PCA select hosts, right click and create a user (as a superuser) with username and password?

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wbowmanAuthor Commented:
I'll have to try it when I get back to my jome PC.

The win98 pc is set up with usernames and password for user profiles, I take it this is different?
NacMacFeegleCommented:
Yup, essentially PCA can take security from a variety of sources the easiest to setup is a PCA user which you manually set. Bear in mind that on Win98 your kids will be able to cancel the pcanywhere host as (from memory) it will appear in the taskbar (list of running programmes at the bottom of the screen).

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wbowmanAuthor Commented:
I'll let you know if this works.

I read it somewhere that you can get PCA to run in stealth mode with a quick Registry tweak, do you know if this hides the tray icon?

Many thanks for the quick response.
NacMacFeegleCommented:
I haven't heard of the registry hack, certainly in NT4, 2000, XP you can run it as a service which is essentially invisible. The symantec website lists the following registry entry
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Value: ServiceStealthMode
Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Symantec\pcANYWHERE\CurrentVersion\Host
Type: DWORD
Settings: 0 = Do not hide icon (Default)
1 = Hide icon
Versions: 7.5, 8.0, 9.0, 10.0, 10.5
Apply at: Host

Use this setting to hide the Host Waiting icon and Waiting dialog.
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However this only seems to apply to versions prior to 11 (what you use). I only use v10.5 but there may be an option in v11 to hide the icon from the configuration setup.

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wbowmanAuthor Commented:
OK, got home, forget the remote install, decided to install PCA on the 98 machine directly, see if we can get the two PCA installs talking to each other.

Clicked setup, pops up an error 1723, missing dll file. It won't install on the 98 machine, doesn't say which dll is missing.

Tried the remote deploy of thin client, made sure a super user was set up. Can see workgroup, and 98 machine from PCA on XP machine. Still pops up messge 'No network available'

I'm stumped.
NacMacFeegleCommented:
I'm not quite sure what you are getting at? I was under the impression (mistakenly) that you had managed to install PCA on the W98 PC. As a last stab can you ensure
- the 2 PCs can definitely ping each other by address (start run "command" for a DOS box then ping and the IP address - if it times out then its a networking problem)
- you've installed (or reinstalled) the latest service pack for W98 (depending if its 1st or 2nd edition)

The error 1723 is related to a previous failed install of PCA, this link http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/8d67bc594d5802c288256d2e006abd37/0a760698c290528488256d5e005882d6?OpenDocument&prod=pcAnywhere&ver=11.0%20for%20Windows%2098/Me/NT/2000/XP&src=sg&pcode=pca&svy=&csm=no
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Error: "Error: 1722 (or 1723) . . . a required dll could not be run." while installing pcAnywhere 11.0

Situation:
While installing pcAnywhere 11.0, you receive the error message, "Error: 1722 (or 1723) . . . a required dll could not be run." You want to know what you can do to fix this problem.

Solution:
To fix this problem do the following (details follow):

Uninstall the aborted or beta installation of pcAnywhere 11.0.
Remove the Symantec Packager program, if installed.
Edit the Windows registry.

Uninstall the aborted or beta installation of pcAnywhere 11.0
On the Windows taskbar, click Start > Run.
Type MsiExec.exe /x {E05E8183-866A-11D3-97DF-0000F8D8F2E9} /qb into the Open box.
Press Enter or click OK.

Remove Symantec Packager
This step is required only if the Symantec Packager program was installed.
On the Windows taskbar, click Start > Settings > Control Panel.
Double-click Add/Remove Programs.
Click Symantec Packager from the list.
Click Remove.
Follow the on-screen instructions.

Edit the Windows registry

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CAUTION: We strongly recommend that you back up the registry before you make any changes to it. Incorrect changes to the registry can result in permanent data loss or corrupted files. Modify only the keys that are specified. Read the document How to back up the Windows registry for instructions.
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Exit all open programs.
On the Windows taskbar, click Start > Run.
In the Run dialog box, type the following

regedit

Click OK. The Registry Editor opens
Navigate to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem\

In the right pane, double-click the following value and then continue with your steps:

\NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation

Change the "Value data:" from '1' to '0'.
Click OK.
Exit the Registry Editor.

After completing all the steps above, reboot the computer and then reinstall pcAnywhere 11.0.

Technical Information:
This error could be related to old information left behind from an aborted or beta installation of pcAnywhere 11.0.
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I know it looks a bit nasty (especially the registry warning stuff but the instructions are pretty clear.
Once you have gone this try to reinstall PCA on W98 locally and set up the user as previously discussed.

I'm off on holiday as of tomorrow so if this fails to help then hopefully someone else can step in.
If you try all this and still fail then I can only point you in the direction of the Symantec Support Knowledge base where they offer free online support
http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/support_options.html

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wbowmanAuthor Commented:
Sorry, I didn't make it clear about the win98 machine.  I thought I could do a remote deploy with only the XP machine having PCA on it. The installation errors ocurred last night when I abandoned this idea, and decided just to install PCA on both machines.

Many thanks for the time and effort you have put into this solution for me.

Again, I'll have to wait until I get home to try it out.

Have a good holiday, I'll let you know how it goes.

WB
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