Still celebrating National IT Professionals Day with 3 months of free Premium Membership. Use Code ITDAY17


Domain/Workgroup Trust

Posted on 2003-10-22
Medium Priority
Last Modified: 2008-02-01
I need to copy files via SecondCopy 2000 backup program from a Windows 2000 server that is configured as part of a Workgroup to a Windows 2000 domain controller. SecondCopy 2000 is running on the domain controller. I'm unable to use the computer name or UNC path to the Workgroup computer. I can ping the Workgroup server successfully from the domain controller. I attempted to establish a trust relationship between the two servers but the domain controller cannot contact the workgroup server. Can a trust relationship be established between a domain controller and a server on a workgroup?

I also setup a share on the Workgroup server and can successfully copy files via the share. However, I am unable to restrict access permissions to a user on the domain controller who will be performing the copy. The only available users listed are users in the Workgroup. If I could setup a trust relationship I should be able to grant access permissions only to a user on the domain controller.

Can I establish a trust relationship between a Wrokgroup and a domain controller? Or, how can I copy files from the Workgroup server to the domain controller without setting a share that is open to Everyone?

Thank you
Question by:mbowling
Welcome to Experts Exchange

Add your voice to the tech community where 5M+ people just like you are talking about what matters.

  • Help others & share knowledge
  • Earn cash & points
  • Learn & ask questions
  • 2

Accepted Solution

birdski earned 200 total points
ID: 9601138
  Not familiar with secondcopy, but the short answer is no,  trusts exist only through domains.  Any access to a workgroup computer will require an account on that computer and will use pass through authentication.  I would strongly suggest joining that workgroup server to your domain,  much less pain, numerous advantages.
   As a workaround,  you might have to use "map as different user" to get stuff across.

Author Comment

ID: 9602036
Will the user accounts of the workgroup server still be independent of the domain accounts?

I would like to add the workgroup server to the domain of the domain controller to allow the trust relationship but I don't want the user accounts of the workgroup integrated into the domain. The servers are used for completely different tasks.

Expert Comment

ID: 9602061
Yes, completely seperate.  However leaving local users only increases the complexity and workload to manage it all.
LVL 16

Assisted Solution

JammyPak earned 200 total points
ID: 9602234
I don't think you should need to join your machine into the domain if you don't want to....

I have secondcopy here, and from what I see it just synchronizes files in two locations. So...the source is the local HD of the domain server, the destination is a mapped drive which is connected to a shared folder on your non-domain server. You don't need to be in the domain in order to share a folder and map to it. You just need to have one user account which exists in the domain as well as on the local Users and Groups of the non-domain server, with both accounts having the same password.

You were really close here:
"I also setup a share on the Workgroup server and can successfully copy files via the share. However, I am unable to restrict access permissions to a user on the domain controller who will be performing the copy. The only available users listed are users in the Workgroup. "

Yes, this is true - so you create a user account on the PC that matches the domain user account you want to use. The only pain of not being in the domain is that the passwords must manually be kept in sync. If you joined the domain, then you would use the domain account, and this wouldn't be an issue.


Featured Post

The Eight Noble Truths of Backup and Recovery

How can IT departments tackle the challenges of a Big Data world? This white paper provides a roadmap to success and helps companies ensure that all their data is safe and secure, no matter if it resides on-premise with physical or virtual machines or in the cloud.

Question has a verified solution.

If you are experiencing a similar issue, please ask a related question

NTFS file system has been developed by Microsoft that is widely used by Windows NT operating system and its advanced versions. It is the mostly used over FAT file system as it provides superior features like reliability, security, storage, efficienc…
When trying to connect from SSMS v17.x to a SQL Server Integration Services 2016 instance or previous version, you get the error “Connecting to the Integration Services service on the computer failed with the following error: 'The specified service …
Video by: ITPro.TV
In this episode Don builds upon the troubleshooting techniques by demonstrating how to properly monitor a vSphere deployment to detect problems before they occur. He begins the show using tools found within the vSphere suite as ends the show demonst…
How to fix incompatible JVM issue while installing Eclipse While installing Eclipse in windows, got one error like above and unable to proceed with the installation. This video describes how to successfully install Eclipse. How to solve incompa…
Suggested Courses

722 members asked questions and received personalized solutions in the past 7 days.

Join the community of 500,000 technology professionals and ask your questions.

Join & Ask a Question