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This thing won't stop beeping at startup!

Motherboard: Shuttle AI61    1ghz AMD

Running Windows Me

Computer runs fine, when I can get it running.  About 1 month ago I shut down and did a reboot.  Upon reboot it  did nothing but continuously beep at me.  Shut of, tried again, shut off, tried again....maybe on the 15th time it started without a problem.  When it's on, it runs fine.

I'm afraid to shut it off.  I have shut down several times and each time it takes many tries to get it turned back on.

Switched keyboards - did not fix.
Tried new mouse - did not fix.
Removed DIMM 128, bought a new one, no fix.
Tried a different DIMM socket - no fix.
New CMOS battery - no fix.

The beeping is Pre-Post - never gets to the setup.

The last 2 times I was able to get it turned on, I got a cheksum error.

I think there are only 2 things left.  Motherboard and power supply.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Uses AWARD BIOS.

Thanks,
Dave
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trifazicCommented:
your video card might not be properly inserted in it's socket
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CallandorCommented:
Checksum errors are usually RAM - is it the right speed for your motherboard?  Are you overclocking?  The exact sequence of beeps (how many and how long) will indicate what the problem is.
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dxf224Commented:

Troubleshooting tools found at ...
http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/sys/beep/award.htm


Continuous Beeping: Memory or video problem

Explanation: The system is producing constant beeping in no specific pattern, or a fast "ringing" sound.

Diagnosis: This is usually caused by a problem with the system memory, or possibly the video card. The memory is more likely--the system complains long and loud if it can't find any usable memory, as there is no way to even start the boot process when this is the case. The motherboard itself could also be the problem.

Recommendation:

Troubleshoot the system memory.
Troubleshoot the video card.
Troubleshoot the motherboard.
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SyncubusCommented:
I remember cooling fans (particularly processor coolers) that used to emit a tone (or song) when they stopped working.  Ensure they are turning properly.
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LucFCommented:
Try to reseat everything:
1) take the processor out of it's socket and put it back in, be sure not to bent any pins.
2) take the memmory out and put it back in
3) take the videocard out and put it back in
4) etc. for all your other cards.

LucF
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da29647Author Commented:
Fans are running properly.

I believe this is a 750 overclocked - not even too sure what that means.

Can't count the beeps - constant and fast.  Doesn't stop.

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SyncubusCommented:
That means it's a 750 MHz processor that someone has configured to run at 1GHz.

You might certainly be having some heat issues.  Try going into the BIOS and setting the processor speed back down to reasonable levels
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LucFCommented:
> I believe this is a 750 overclocked, I never heard of a 750 Mhz processor. Can you try to run AIDA32 on your system to find out what your real processor is and at what speed it's running => http://www.aida32.hu/aida-download.php?bit=32

LucF
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da29647Author Commented:
Downloaded and ran AIDA32 - Awesome program.  Thanks for the tip!

CPU Type - AMD Athlon - PECM 1007 MH.
Motherboard chipset AMD-750 irongate.

Not sure if it's an overheat problem because I will come back the next day and when I try to turn it on it beeps.

Thanks for all the feedback thusfar.

I'll try to reset all the cards tonight.

Dave
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da29647Author Commented:
2 hours since my last post.

Bad news.

Computer parts spread all over the table.

I reset all cards to no avail.

I started removing everything.  Could not get it to boot.

I reset the AMD slot A chip - no help.

Very little hair left.

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JamesGoldenCommented:
It sounds to me like you are getting to the bottom of it.  Stick with it.  I would replace your power supply next as the post above mentioned.  If that doesn't fix it, then the only thing left is your motherboard.   One thing I would be sure of is EXACTLY where the beeping is coming from.  Get close enough that you know for sure.  This may help.  I've even had hard drives make beeping noises when they were having problems, besides fans and motherboards.  
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LucFCommented:
Take a look at dxf224s comment,
Continuous Beeping: Memory or video problem

So I suggest if you have some spare memmory or a spare videocard to try that first. If you have two sticks of memmory, try removing one, if no luck, try removing the other one.

LucF
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da29647Author Commented:
First off, all of you are fabulous.  Thanks for your time.

The beeping is coming fro the computer's speaker - I know that for sure because when I unplug that cable from the motherboard it shuts off the beeps.

I tried the memory issues - heck I even wen to Microcentre and bought a new module.  I tried all the memory slots with no boot up success.

Can this be the power supply?  I have another motherboard on the way ($61) thought it was worth it to have anyway.  They are generally harder to find as time passes.

I stripped the system last night.  Systematically removed pieces and still got beeps.  Tried another video card.  Unplug slot a processor, plugged it back in, etc....

About 30 reboots got past the beeping but  then only hanged on windows me screen.  

Is it bad to remove a slot a processor and put it back in?  I was kinda queasy about that.  Tons of dust under it.

Please let me know if you agree with this action plan:

(1) New motherboard arrives.
(2) Insert slot a processor
(3) Insert memory module
(4) Put motherboard in case
(5) Insert video card

Do I need to hook up a hard drive or anything else before checking for a pre-post beep?

If it beeps at this point - is it safe to assume it's the power supply?

Thanks for all the feedback.  It makes me feel as if I'm not alone.

Dave
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LucFCommented:
>Is it bad to remove a slot a processor and put it back in? I was kinda queasy about that.
Normally no problem, it's sometimes even better, you can make sure all contact points are clean.
> Tons of dust under it.
Did you remove the dust now? Use a vacuüm cleaner.

Still no luck?

Your action plan looks perfect.

>If it beeps at this point - is it safe to assume it's the power supply?
Yep (at least it's the cheapest thing to replace) but could also be the CPU (wich I think is more expensive)

Let us know how it goes,

LucF
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da29647Author Commented:
This just in -

Bought a whole new case with a new power supply.  ($29.99 only).

Still doesn't work.

Down to motherboard or chip I guess.

Thanks,
Dave
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zephyrdudeCommented:
Try flashing the BIOS before you give up.
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JamesGoldenCommented:
The bad of it is, whenever I fix my computer it always seems like the last thing I try is what works. I just spent 3 days rebuilding my PC (won't go into that here).
The good of it is, there isn't much left it can be.

Comes with the territory.

:-)
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SyncubusCommented:
Why would you continue trying after you've fixed it? ;-)
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rabi9634Commented:
I had a problem similar to that before..

Make sure all your connections are secure.  Mine was actually a loose connection between the motherboard and one of the IDE cables (to my hard drive).
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LucFCommented:
rabi9634,
I'm sure he already checked those connections, he's even taken all of his hardware and put it on a table.
LucF
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da29647Author Commented:
New motherboard arrived this evening.

Put everything back together.

Works like a charm.

Thank you, thank you and thank you for all your comments and encouragement.

Dave
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LucFCommented:
I feel a bit left out on this :(  why didn't you split the points?
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da29647Author Commented:
LucF -
Sorry about that.  I was trying to figure out how to do that.
I'll try to figure it out again.

Dave
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SyncubusCommented:
We all learn by contributing...  I'm pretty new at this site, but I'm not concerened about making the top ten.  If there are some people I can help with my experience, I offer it.  I might expect the same in return.

I'm not saying "no" to distributing points, just saying that we might not get so hung up about it.

I try to offer something useful.  If it works, then cool.  If not, we all know the drawing board is still open.  

This is a cool site.  The points system keeps everyone contributing.  While we all appreciate noteriety for our skills, I don't know that the points should be the 'goal'.  In the end, the solution is the key.  Whether it's a 50 point question or a 500 point question, the goal is the solution, and working through the problem.

I know your name.  I respect your thoughts.  I thank you for your time...  I'll look for you if I post a problem.
Ya know?  
Have fun with it!

Sincerely,
Sync
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zephyrdudeCommented:
I fully agree Syncabus.  I do think he should have tried flashing the bios but I won't push that issue.  Perhaps the person that gets his discarded MOBO will do that and get a real bargain.
I don't need any stinkin' points anyway. :)  I'm only here to help and if I can do that on occasion, that's reward enough.

Regards,  Don
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LucFCommented:
da29647,
That's ok, you don't need to pass me points, I was just wondering....

Next time you want to split the points, take a look at http://www.experts-exchange.com/help/closing.jsp#3

Greetings,

LucF
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