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*** Cleanup Volunteers needed (C) ***

Posted on 2003-10-28
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C experts,

At the moment I write this message, we have 1643  open questions in this area and the last ones are from February 2002.  So it is high time to close all these old questions.

So we search experts that:
- experts in this area just to be sure you are familiar with the questions you will have to close
- active in the last 3 months - you can be great expert but if in the last 3 months you have at all 10 comments that means you have no time...
- have some time and want to help.

If you fit in the above, please read:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/help.jsp#hs7

If after reading it, you are still interested in helping please post here and I will assign you a range to work on.
If you have any questions, please ask.

Thank you very much for the help.

AnnieMod
Community Support Moderator @ Experts Exchange
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by:mattjsimps
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AnnieMod,

My offer still stands......I havent been as active as i would like over the last couple of weeks as i have been on a course.

Also, it seems a lot of the questions are posted during the (in the UK) evening / night, so by the time i get to see them, a lot of comments have been added, and there seems to be enough expert input.

Not excuses, just extra info when deciding if i am 'active enough'

~Matt
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by:mattjsimps
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no worrys.
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by:sunnycoder
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sorry anniemod...

I did not post for sometine .... I was away in a vacation .... my current range of sep-oct 2002 is nearly done ... i will post back as soon as I finish the remaining few questions (7-10 days hopefully)
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by:sunnycoder
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It was great indeed :o) ... thanks
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by:sunnycoder
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Current range completed .... you can assign me the next one :o)
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by:sunnycoder
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:o)
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by:jmcg
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AnnieMod,

I'll be glad to undertake cleanup for a range in C Programming.


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by:jmcg
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AnnieMod,

I've completed the range 16-Dec-2002 to 15-Jan-2003. Please assign me a new range when you get a chance.

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by:sunnycoder
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wow jmcg ... you are real fast
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by:jmcg
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Hi, Sunny,

Not so fast, just unemployed and finding this a useful, if unremunerative, way to spend some time.
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by:sunnycoder
ID: 9881034
thats sad ... Hope you will find a suitable job very soon
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by:sunnycoder
ID: 9887785
completed my current range + all cleanup ping questions ... phew

My mind is numb and I need a coffee ... You better give these points to me this time ... grrr

OK ... I skipped a few questions like M$ DLLs and interconnecting oracle and C etc etc + 1-2 questions where I had had heated debates ... total around 7-10 questions in all the ranges assigned to me till date ... hope that will not be too much of an inconvenience ...

I will be taking a break from CVing as I will be bit busier for atleast 30-45 days ... Meanwhile I will try to help with linux programming as far as possible.

Cheers!!

PS: congrats ... for the first time in last several months we have less than 1550 questions (special thanks jmcg) ... less than 1500 is under statement ... its 1412 !!!! Given the number of recommendations already posted it will be less than 1250 in 7-8 days from now :o)
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by:sunnycoder
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An after thought .. this question is #127 .. it will be good idea to post it again ...
you can bump the points to 500 and accept my answer and mark it with an A grade ;o)
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by:jmcg
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Just a progress report: I've completed 16-31 Jan 2003.
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by:jmcg
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Hi, AnnieMod,

I'm not sure what you are asking.

I have three scripts. The first locates in-range open questions. The second fetches the HTML source of any Qs you feed to it. The third looks through the locally stored page and provides a status summary. One of the distinctions it makes is when a question has no responses or only responses from the asker.

Questions in this category still have to be looked at, though the recommendation on them is almost invariably "delete, refund" a small fraction are properly "PAQ, refund". I avoid posting anything in these questions since a) that would compromise the question's status -- it would now have a post by me, so my script would reclassify it -- and b) the ordinary post might wake up the questioner, but the question is now so old that it will not be seen by any other experts.

I'll be glad to post the scripts somewhere (in fact, one of them has been posted as an example of navigating past a login screen with cookies), but they are still in a rough and idiosyncratic form that few others would care to employ (certainly inferior in most ways to FastCAT).

I can also review a broader range of questions with an eye to seeing if there are any in this *** no expert responded *** status and ping them with a suitable message. I have already noticed that in C Programming, my remaining range (Feb 2003) has no questions in this status. Whether that's through earlier cleanup efforts or if some of the experts have been assiduously going through and making sure that no question goes unresponded-to, I can't say.

So please make it a little clearer what you would like me to do. Post the scripts (where?) or change my procedures to post something (it doesn't seem to me that the normal cleanup post is quite suitable for the purpose you've suggested) in the questions in this category.

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by:jmcg
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I can do that, but it seems wrong. Fortunately we have a while to explain this to me so I understand. There are no such questions in the remainder of my range here in C Programming.

The post will generate an email to the asker. If the asker returns to the question, they see this cryptic boilerplate message. They can say "I agree, delete it" or they can say "hey, here's how I solved this". No other response is useful: we will not leave the question open in hopes that experts will now discover it and leave answers.

I would be happy to give these questions proper treament: a post that encourages the asker to try again, perhaps under a different topic. An apology, even, for there being no responses. I'm already making the discrimination between PAQ and delete. But posting the standard Post strikes me as exhibiting rigid bureaucratic stupidity. It serves some goal I don't understand, but not the ones of giving good service to our users and assembling a high-quality database of searchable solutions.

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by:jmcg
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Interestingly, BooMod had criticized exactly this sort of post in one of his emails. Your dicta take precedence, of course, but I'd still prefer to do something because I understand why rather than merely because I'm told I must.
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by:sunnycoder
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Hi AnnieMod,

I guess I will be having sometime to spare shortly, so assign me a range. I would prefer to work on small ranges (40-50 questions) preferably before may 2003. I am reluctant about CVing questions in which I am a participant and there will be a lot of them from mid-may onwards. I hope it wil be possible to assign may onwards to jmcg while I try to cleanup the upto may questions at my pace.

Cheers
Sunny

PS: do we have some test area for fast cat or can I start using it as such.
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by:jmcg
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Hi AnnieMod,

Welcome back from holiday!

I have completed the range 16 Jan 2003 through 28 Feb 2003. Please assign me a new range when you get a chance. I have no complaint about proceeding as sunnycoder has proposed. I note that we still have some 2002 questions to clean up, which I'd also be willing to undertake.

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by:sunnycoder
ID: 10041118
welcome back Annie. Hope you had a great vacation.
I would request you to reassign the ranges atleast for the time being. I would prefer to have jmcg work on may onwards and I will cleanup march & april in bits and pieces. This will allow jmcg to put in efforts in the ranges which I may not be cleaning rather than those which I am willing to take up.

Sunny
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by:jmcg
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I'll repeat my offer to undertake the year 2002 questions, just in case you missed it.

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by:jmcg
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Something like half of them seemed to be in two ranges that you had assigned to mattjsimps and sunnycoder, the rest I couldn't see to have been assigned to anyone in this thread.

I'll get started on them tonight, when I'll again be wearing my Cleanup hat.
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by:sunnycoder
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I had skipped a few questions around 10 which were related to stuff I was not sure about
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Languages/C/Q_20780320.html#9887785

they will be concerning DLLs or oracle or stuff  .... I thought better skip rather than make an uneducated guess :o)
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by:jmcg
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Hi, Sunnycoder,

Ah, that explains it. Maybe this is a case of "fools rush in where angels fear to tread". I'll report back once I've looked at some of the questions.
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by:jmcg
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Sunnycoder,

Do we have conflicting views about where our ranges begin and end because we are in different time zones? In my view, these two

03/31/2003 Q_20569136 - Hi All,
0.1 w - 50 - Asker: Oster Exp: owenli27 sarda_ramesh sunnycoder

03/31/2003 Q_20569331 - "storage size of 'dst' isn't known"
0.1 w - 75 - Asker: MtM Exp: grg99 GaryFx honey_hamster sarda_ramesh sunnycoder

are in March while in your view they are in April? That could explain some other "missed" questions where, instead of an overlap, there is a gap between the ranges as perceived by the two CVs. It's not a problem here, but it may be something to keep in mind for the future (unless AnnieMod wants to start dishing out ranges by Q number).
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by:sunnycoder
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seems like you are correct ... Assigning ranges by Q numbers might be a good idea
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by:jmcg
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AnnieMod,

The remaining year 2002 questions are all now posted for cleanup and I've started in on March 2003.
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by:sunnycoder
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april 1-10 completed ... skipped 4/5 questions again
assign me the next range ...

This question is now on page 4 .... on the brink of sliding to page 5 ... how about opening a new question ? :o)
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by:jmcg
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AnnieMod,

I've completed the range March 2003. Please assign me a new range when you get a chance.
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by:jmcg
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I didn't catch the "starting from 7 February" part, so I've already been doing it: my three most recent posts in the cleanup topic were lists using the 4-day period. I was beginning to wonder why nobody else seemed to be on the new schedule...but nearly everyone I looked at was using FastCAT.

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by:jmcg
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AnnieMod,

I've finished the range May 2003. Please assign me a new range when you get a chance.
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by:sunnycoder
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Hi AnnieMod,

April 11-30 completed ... skipped 4 questions related to MS and Java.
Assign me next range :o)

sunnycoder
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by:sunnycoder
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Hi AnnieMod,

Partially completed Aug 2003 ... Pinged the rest ...
Assign me next range :o)

sunnycoder
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by:sunnycoder
ID: 10360101
Completed sep 2003 ... It was part of the pinged range which I cleaned earlier, so not much to do ... Next range please :o)

sunnycoder
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by:jmcg
ID: 10639193
AnnieMod,

I finally finished the range June-July 2003 that you assigned on Feb 10.

Please assign me a new range in this topic area when you get a chance.
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by:jmcg
ID: 10738454
AnnieMod, Sunny,

Can I volunteer to take on the remaining questions from year 2003 as my next range here?

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by:sunnycoder
ID: 10738501
jmcg AnnieMod will have to make a call here as she is the lead ... I however do not have any objections as I have temporarily stopped working on cleanup
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by:jmcg
ID: 10738703
Thanks, Sunny. You're PE, so I thought I had better involve you, or at least try to determine what your intentions were. My own cleanup activities are slower (for some unexplained reason) and less frequent than they used to be, but I still make fairly steady progress.
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by:sunnycoder
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You "slower speed" is faster than me going full steam ;o)

I really do appreciate all the efforts you have put in for EE community
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by:jmcg
ID: 10810546
AnnieMod,

Are you still recruiting CVs for this TA? We'd probably need a new post to do that, this one is too far down the list. Either way, shouldn't this thread get closed (I assume we all have it bookmarked)?
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Basically I should close it but... it will be closed when i start reposting and closing the threads in all areas:)
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by:jmcg
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AnnieMod,

I've completed cleanup for year 2003. It seems that Sunny isn't able to do cleanup for the time being, so I'm willing to undertake another range here. Something like Jan-Mar 2004 would suit me, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion.
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by:jmcg
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Excellent. I'll work on 2004 month-by-month until we're down to questions that haven't yet been idle for 3 weeks. It felt good to finally get Perl to that state. We'll be there soon in C Programming.
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by:jmcg
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Annie -

Are we holding off on cleanup until the new site gets pushed? My other areas are close to current, but I still have quite a bit more work to do here in C Programming.
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