Totaly weird audio cd problem!!!

b_vishwajit
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I have an audio CD which has just one track. It plays perfectly well when I play it on standard CD players. But when i pop it in a computer cd-rom it shows no tracks thought it is recognised as an Audio cd. This track is actualy composed by me(yeha i did it a year or 2 years ago when I was fooling around music editors.)I dont have any other digital backup of this track. Can anyone please tell me whats happening?I realy need to rip this track from the CD. Please help. Thx.
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Take a look at the file in windows explorer or through the cd drive icon in my computer.  What shows up?  
Also,copy the file  from the cd to your hd and play with it from there..  

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make sure you are set up to view hidden files in explorer. /my computer
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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Have you tried using a grabber like => http://www.real.com/accessories/index.html?prod=audiocatalyst&src=rca_xingmp3encoder (it has a trial version) to rip the track to a wav file (or MP3 whatever you prefer)

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Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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Also, have you tried copying the disk (a 1 on 1) copy to see if it's maybe the cd-rom had his best time. Or try reading it with another computer.

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Ok I have tried everything mentioned above. The OS identifies the CD as audio-cd but windows media player says "No disc in drive x" where x is my cd drive letter. When I open the cd with explorer nothing shows up. No files. Yet the cd plays all 38 minute track on standard cd players. Ridiculous!!!!Never happened before.

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This is weird and irritating!!!!!!I am trying to figure it out myself.Any Guru storage experts here?
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer
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> Any Guru storage experts here?
nope, not around, you'll need 150,000 pts to get GURU status, even CrazyOne isn't close with his 35545 pts ;-)

I suggest you connect your cd-player to your computer using the line-in and use some kind of sound recorder to get your audio track back then, it's not a solution to your problem, just a workaround.

LucF
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Another solution is to try it in a different computer.

You may have a version of SW that is messing it up somehow.

I hope this helps !

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Try to browse the CD in dos mode, use a floppy with CD support, you can also make a image of the CD with nero (if you use that) and then check the image file.
Also when looking at the cd with explorer does the system report 'space used' ?
Adrian DobrotaNetworking Engineer

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The way I see the problem here,  b_vishwajit didn't try to copy the CD.  Have you,  b_vishwajit ? What about ripping? Did you tried?
       My first suggestion is to use CloneCD to copy your Audio CD (And I recomend CloneCD before any other CD cloning software)
      If that fails and all other solution provided above (INCLUDING CD RIPPING USING AUDIO CATALYST) fail, you should find the proud owner of a Plextor CDWriter and ask him to use the PlexTools that come with the CDburner to read your track. THIS DEFINETLY HAS TO SOLVE YOUR ISSUE

best wishes

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Try Isobuster from www.isobuster.com

Might be able to see it and pull it off.
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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kronostm, I already suggested cloning and ripping (for ripping even the same software)
Good idea on the Plexwriter though (I'm using one, never had those problems)
LucF
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yes Luc, I know, but I have a feeling the questioner didn't try that  :D
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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ok, no prob.

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>> Have you,  b_vishwajit ? What about ripping? Did you tried?

I already mentioned that I have pretty much tried everything. I saw my cd on a windows 98 os and the explorer shows track1.cda and it says it is just 44bytes (ridiculous). When I try to rip it, I get a windows media unknown error.Even whenI tried different rippers it said same sort of error. Is it possible that I did not write my audio cd properly?If thats true then why does the whole track play perfectly. Now how can I make another proper copy of it. Some wise suggestions needed. I dont want to lose the cd qwality.Please help.
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer
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>I saw my cd on a windows 98 os and the explorer shows track1.cda and it says it is just 44bytes (ridiculous).
this is normal, this is the size of the index from the music track.

>I dont want to lose the cd qwality
Maybe a suggestion, do you have a cd-player with a digital output, if so try connecting it to the digital imput of your (or someone elses) computer, or to a minidisk/DAT player. Or you could try to find someone who does have these things.

LucF
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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typo, "imput" should be "input"
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Did you try what LucF said about connecting your player to the computer and using a sound recorder to record what is being played? If you have not, try it.

You can get the recorder from - http://www.soundrecorder.net/ 
The unregistered copy can only record 40s of audio if I'm not wrong.
This is not the only sound recorder around. But majority of what is on the net are not free.

This is a crazy but legal method to record your whole song - record your song in many 40s pieces and use a sound editor to put them together. This way, I believe you will not lose cd quality.

Unregistered versions of softwares normally have limitations. One way to solve it is to buy it.

Adrian DobrotaNetworking Engineer

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Find a Plextor CDRW and USE PLEXTOOLS !!!!

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Try CDEx from http://www.cdex.n3.net/

It's one of the best rippers I've seen, and has worked when I've previously had the exact problem you're describing.

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You've mentioned you created this cd using music editors.  Best bet would be to try to re-open the track using the same music editors.  The audio format may be recognized by cd players, but have some strange quirk that prevents the cd-rom drive from reading it.

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rabi. Thx for helping.Your idea doesnot work.
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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b_vishwajit,
Have you tried the other ways yet?
Have you modified the default views of Explorer to see hidden and system files?
Have you tried mainstream rippers like MusicMatch?
What was the application you mastered the CD with? (Is it still at your disposal?)
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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b_vishwajit, any feedback please... did you try any of the suggested workarounds??
Luc FrankenEMEA Server Engineer

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Glad to help ;-)

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Hope everything works fine by now ;)

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