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Has anyone out there set this up before?  I could use detailed instructions.  So far, I only have these links to go by:
http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7959
http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8148
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=231176
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q152/4/60.asp&NoWebContent=1
http://www.morphasys.com/autodefrag/

I'd like to be able to let end users in the local power users group on Windows XP Pro machines be able to run disk defrag whenever they want on their own.  However when I try set this up and try to run the service (even while logged in as local admin), I get the following error:

"The autodefrag service on Local Computer started and then stopped.  Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do, for example, the Performance Logs and Alerts service."

Thanks in advance!

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have you tried the -f switch on the defrag program, this forces defrag to run even if it thinks there isn't any work to do?

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The auto defrag program works on it's own, and yes it will work with the -f switch.  When I set the autodefrag program to run as a service is where I run into the problem.
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Can you find anything in the event-logs? If so please post all details.

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Nothing in the event logs that looks unusual.
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I'm at the moment trying to copy the thing you're trying todo, having the same problem, I'll let you know as soon as I find something.

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Okay.  Thanks.
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This is a problem for many reasons:
1-As a service it is going to run all the time.  It will stay resident in memory and may even lock access to the disk at some point.  
2-You are going to run inot interrupt contention, usually logical disk manager will lock to provide partition or volume level access and it has priority (ie it can stop defrag or any other app that hooks int13) because basically it is those services that handles negotiation with the HAL from the system to hardware
3-Defrag doesn't register as system activity, power management COULD powerdown the system
4-IT RUNS ALL THE TIME, what good does a manual service setting do in this situation?

Use the command line option and make a scheduled task.  It will wake the computer and keep it from sleeping untill finished.  It can logon using a service account you create for it, domain or local.  Just give it appropriate rights.  

Since MS defrag doesn't defrag the MFT or the page file, once a system is defraged it will largely remain that way.  Only through installs and uninstalls does the system get fragmented.  No need to have a huge temp.inetfiles, most cached objects are small gifs 1-2k.  If its not huge it won't fragment the drive.

If you are looking for a decent defrag solution Diskeeper is the way to go.  www.executivesoftware.com

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Per MS: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314848
It can defragment only local volumes.
It can defragment only one volume at a time.
It cannot defragment one volume while it is scanning another.
It cannot be scheduled. If you need to schedule disk defragmentation, use the Defrag.exe command line tool. For additional information about using the command line Defrag.exe tool, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
283080 Description of the New Command Line Defrag.exe Included with Windows XP

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Better yet make a batchfile, set a sceduled task to run the batch file and redirect output to a text file for review. Just make a directory for the output files.
<snip>
start
%sysvol%:\%windir%\defrag.exe c: -fv > x:\directory\defragc.log
%sysvol%:\%windir%\defrag.exe d: -fv > x:\directory\defragd.log
%sysvol%:\%windir%\defrag.exe e: -fv > x:\directory\defrage.log
...
end
</endsnip>

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Hello......close this topic please or reply!

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Sure.  I understand what Microsoft says about this.  However, I was looking for an automated, hacked, way of doing it based on the links I provided.
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I never got a complete answer on this.  I have settled for creating a shortcut with the following entry in the Target:
%windir%\System32\runas.exe /user:adminusername@domainname.com "mmc dfrg.msc"

This way, I do not have to log off the end user to run defrag.  I just enter the admin password and have the app minimized until the user has time to run it.

Regards,

mb2010

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