all my programs dissapeared

I booted my computer this morning, saw an error message and the blue screen of death, and then discovered that all of my programs had been uninstalled. ( everything that didn't come with windows, paint and notepad are still there but everything else is gone ) :?

I've no clue what happened. It took my drivers with it, whatever It was, and my last working cd drive is no longer working. ( This I discovered when trying to back up my documents, which were strangely enough entirely undisturbed, whenever a cd is loaded the computer freezes ( and does not thaw. )

If the cd drive insn't working, I can't do a clean reinstall, can't reinstall any of my programs, and am rendered computer-less.

I couldn't even come online using that computer, because Internet Explorer is gone too, as is aol and opera.

I am using windows 98se. Help anyone ?
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erinsteadmanCommented:
Can you boot from a CD?  If you have a Win98 CD, you can boot from it and reinstall from there.

Erin
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Pete LongTechnical ConsultantCommented:
Hi màndÕlin,
Back up your documents!

Reinstall windows 98 over the top of itself, then get some virus scanning done and install some firewall software.

PeteL
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Pete LongTechnical ConsultantCommented:
màndÕlin,
Virus Checking

If you cant get the PC to boot you will need to scan from Dos
http://www.europe.f-secure.com/download-purchase/tools.shtml



Online (Free) Virus Checking can be done at

SYMANTEC (You must have ActiveX enabled on your browser for it to work!)
http://security.symantec.com/ssc/vc_scan.asp?j=1&langid=ie&venid=sym&plfid=23&pkj=ROSUPWFYJOKMFIDPMSV 

Trend Micro (Housecall)
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

But You really Need some good quality Anti Virus Installed!

FreeWare

AntiDote Lite http://www.vintage-solutions.com/English/Antivirus/Super/index.html
Avast http://www.avast.com/
F-Prot http://www.f-prot.com/products/
V-Catch http://www.vcatch.com/download.html

The BIG Boys in AV

McAfee
http://www.mcafee.com/default.asp

Symantec (or the firm formally known as Norton)
http://www.symantec.com

Sophos (This Protects My Corporate Network)
http://www.sophos.com/

Command
http://www.commandsoftware.com/
PeteL
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Pete LongTechnical ConsultantCommented:
màndÕlin,
Software Firewalls

ZoneAlarm
The basic version is still free!
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp;jsessionid=10lfaHFKttIAMkUvvZm1xhWKVLKHVeYPMJpXB1I1UxUpAC2ZioSE!1284415661!-1062696903!7551!7552!1822958594!-1062696904!7551!7552?lid=home_zainfo
Zone Labs offers a complete range of firewall products, from the free ZoneAlarm, to the comprehensive protection of ZoneAlarm Plus, to the ultimate privacy and security tools in ZoneAlarm Pro.

Black Ice Defender
http://blackice.iss.net/
BlackICE teams a personal firewall with an advanced intrusion detection system to constantly watch your Internet connections for suspicious behavior.

Symantec's Norton™ Personal Firewall
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/
Keeps hackers out and personal data in. It makes robust firewall protection easy by automatically hiding your PC on the Internet and blocking suspicious connections. Norton Personal Firewall also protects your privacy by preventing confidential information from being sent out without your knowledge.

McAfee Personal Firewall
http://us.mcafee.com/root/package.asp?pkgid=101&WWW_URL=www.mcafee.com/myapps/firewall/ov_firewall.asp
Personal Firewall places a barrier between the Internet and your PC, helping to block hackers from accessing your computer and allowing you to digitally 'fingerprint' trusted applications. Every time your computer is probed or attacked, you get detailed reports and clear follow-up options.



PeteL
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war1Commented:
mandOtin,
   Looks like you are able to boot up to Windows.  Install Windows over itself. You will not lose data, even though you should always back up your data.

Boot up with the Windows CD. If the CD is not bootable, boot up with a startup disk. If you don't have one, download one from www.bootdisk.com . Type setup or E:\setup , where E is your CD-ROM drive.

If you don't have the Windows CD, the system files may be in the CABS folder. From a:> type "c:\windows\options\cabs\setup" or "c:\windows\options\install\setup" without the quotes and hit ENTER.

Best wishes, war1
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rogue_phoenixCommented:
it sounds more to me like you lost all or part of the registry, possibly due to hard disk corruption or a badly timed power spike. Reinstalling windows won't fix that (it won't hurt either).  Check the c:\program files folder -- are the files for your apps still there? if so, you probably just need to reinstall the apps. If you're lucky, you might be able to restore a previous registry booting into dos and running scanreg /restore, picking a registry with a date before you had the problem.

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màndÕlinAuthor Commented:
I can't boot from cd, I can't use the cd drive ( I just said that ).   I don't know why, but every time a cd is loaded, * poof * the computer stops dead.

Virus checking I can't do, my firewall ( and zone alarm stuff ) is gone with the rest of my programs. I can't go online with that computer either, so I can't put anything new on the computer. ( somehow even dr.Watson is nowhere to be found )


Edit : ( missed a post )

Thanks war1, I'll try that.
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màndÕlinAuthor Commented:
phoenix, I checked the program files, they are all gone without a trace.

(  Oddly, the only remaining files in that otherwise empty folder is a folder for eZula, which I never installed or noticed had snuck in. I've not even installed any screensavers or the like on that computer. :? )
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erinsteadmanCommented:
Well, if the the computer freezes when you put a cd in even in DOS mode, then it sounds like you have a hardware problem as well.  In Windows, I could understand, but if it happens in DOS, that.'s more serious.
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stevenlewisCommented:
try what rogue_phoenix suggested
boot to dos (press F8 during boot and chooe prompt only
and from the prompt type
scanreg /restore
and choose a date before this happened
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BillDLCommented:
When you do get your system restored, please take note of all the comments on the following pages regarding eZula:

http://www.whirlywiryweb.com/q/ezula.asp

http://www.whirlywiryweb.com/removeezula.htm

http://www.ahfb2000.com/ezula/ezula.php

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rogue_phoenixCommented:
program files are all gone? hmm.

go to DOS and do a thurough scandisk. if it finds a bunch of bad sectors, that's your problem. If not, you probably got hit with a virus that targeted them. Is there anything else on the drive besides windows, and is there a possiblity that program files was on another partition?

In either case (virus or severe HDD corruption, i.e. bad sector in the FAT), you've lost your data and probably aren't getting it back without a data recovery specialist (and lots of $$$). (there may be an off chance that an undelete utiity might bring some of that back IF the damage is only in the FAT AND none of it has been overwritten since the problem occurred, but know what you're doing before you attempt any of that, and only if you need to get back data you can't replace. It'll be faster to format & reinstall).  If the CD is having problems just being used AND you have severe HD corruption, you've probably lost the IDE controller on the mainboard.  

good luck!
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CrazyOneCommented:
You can use this to check for viruses in DOS. Just use the computer you are using to post here at ee to download it.

F-Prot Antivirus for DOS
http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/dos/

F-Prot Antivirus for DOS is free for personal use

Downlaod
http://www.f-prot.com/download/download_fpdos.html
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CrazyOneCommented:
And if you want to try and get those files and such back

Take look at these.

FREE TOOLS

PC INSPECTOR
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Tool to check and undelete partition
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File Rescue 2.5
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GetDataBack for FAT
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Zip/Jaz Drives
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Norton Utilities/SystemWorks
The Norton Protected Recycle Bin helps you recover deleted and overwritten files.
The UnErase wizard helps you retrieve files you've accidentally deleted.
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For NTFS
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Data Recovery
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Fast File Undelete
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Undelete
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File Recover 2000
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R-Tools
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File Restore
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Hard Disk and Data Recovery Related Tools:
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http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/

Disk Commander
In virtually any situation where you need to recover lost data from a Windows system, Disk Commander is the solution. Disk Commander performs a wide range of data recovery operations.
http://www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecovery/diskcommander.asp

DFSee
http://www.dfsee.com/
As a tool to 'UNDELETE' files that have been accidentaly deleted.
This feature is implemented for HPFS and NTFS only.

MRECOVER
http://kristenonline.com/lain/cih/mrecintro.htm

Emergency Undelete
I believe this is free
For Win2000 and NT may work on XP
http://www.c2000.com/software/#win2000

Back2Life
http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/57588.html

Hard Drive Mechanic
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demo version:
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Filerecovery for Windows
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Undelete
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Fast File Recovery
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A definite must for the PC guru! It will allow the user to perform all data recovery tasks associated with disks which are not physically damaged.
 

File Scavenge
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Active UNERASER
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Undelete 3.0
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FinalData Data Recovery
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BadCopy Pro
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Directory Snoop
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màndÕlinAuthor Commented:
Okay, there wasn't anything irreplaceable on that computer, ( I'd backed up a few days ago thankfully ) so I reformatted and reinstalled. First I tried just reinstallling windows, but the computer would freeze up every time the cd would start, so . .

It's all peachy keen now.   Thanks for the help.     I still wish I could figure out what happened, the program files were on the same drive as the document folder, and this makes no sense to me . . but no biggie.
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