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OE5 idenity saved on orb, can't move to OE6 Idenity

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Hi,  I saved my OE5 idenities on an orb disc.  I now have OE6 and when I try to move the dbx files from the orb disc to the new idenity, it does not show up.  How can I recover these files?  Thanks copia1033
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I don't think the identies are in the dbx files just the emails
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How to backup Outlook Express (OE) Email and transfer settings to another PC:
http://www.iopus.com/guides/oe-backup.htm

1. Email Messages:
From the Outlook Express menu select Tools | Options | Maintenance and click the StoreFolder button. You see a dialog with the name of the directory that has your mail files. If you look in that directory you find files named after your mail folders and news groups. They all have a .DBX suffix. Outlook Express keeps all messages in these database files. If you make copies of these files regularly, you'll have a safe backup of your OE mail.  

Restore (if necessary): To restore the backup data, just copy it back to the directory. You can selectively restore folders by just copying specific files back. Alternatively, you can use OE's File | Import | Messages feature to import one or more of the backup folders. Email Account Settings

As far as we know, the procedure works for all kind of email: The regular SMTP / POP3 based email, MAPI, IMAP or even the free Hotmail Account, that is built into Outlook. For Hotmail, however, some messages and settings might be stored only at the Hotmail server ( = somewhere at Microsoft !) and not on your local PC.

2. Account settings:
Data about your mail and news accounts are stored in the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Account Manager. To save this data, start RegEdit and select that key in the left-hand pane. Then from the menu select Registry | Export Registry File. Save the file to a name like "outlook.reg".  

 Restore (if necessary) To restore the account settings, right-click the .REG file and select Merge.

Note: As an alternative, you can save the data one account at a time through Outlook Express: click Tools | Accounts | Export and specify the name of the file to save the settings. Be sure to save this information for every account.  

3. Address Book
Getting the data out of your address book for safekeeping is relatively easy. From the menu select File | Export | Address Book and select the comma separated text file as your output format. Then select the fields you want to export. To make sure you know where the backup is going, give a full path name. To restore the address book or to get your addresses onto a new system, the process is not quite symmetrical. Select File | Import | Other address book and select the text file option again. You'll be given a list of fields to import. Since you're importing a file that was created by Outlook Express, you usually don't need to make any changes here. After that, click your way on through the wizard and you'll get your address book back.  

4. Mail Rules
The mail rules are stored at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities. If you run Regedit and export this entire subkey to a file the same way you did with account settings: from the menu select Registry | Export Registry File. Save the file to a name like "rules.reg".  

Restore (if necessary):  Under the Identities key each subkey has a long number that looks similar to {36753740-2WEE-781D3-89B1-00A0C9900DSA}. So if you have five different identities in Outlook you will have five of these long numbers. Below the numbers are all the settings specific the the identity (signatures, mail rules,...). If you are restoring without reinstall and on the same PC these numbers do not change (as far as we know !) and you can just restore the registry entries by clicking on the reg file.


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Moving OE settings to a NEW PC:
If you're moving to a new system or doing a clean install, the {...} numbers are be different and you may have to manually move the entries to the differently numbered entries that are actually being used.  

How to do this? This is the method that we use in our office:

1. Export the registry branch on the old PC to a *.reg file.  

2. Transfer this "reg" file to the new PC

3. On the new computer search for the (still empty) settings of your new Outlook Express installation. Once you find, you have the new {...} number!

4. Now, open the transfered*.reg file with a text editor and make a "Search and Replace":  

Replace the old {....} value with the NEW {...} that you just located in the registry.  

5. Save this file and then click on it. This will import your old settings in the NEW registry.  
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5. Passwords
Outlook Express, along with those of most other Microsoft applications such as Internet Explorer, stores its passwords in .PWL files in your Windows directory for Win9x OS's. There's a separate file for each username on the system. Backup the files frequently. You can view the content of these files with the FREE "Write All Stored Password" utility from iOpus Software. For NT based OS's the passwords are encrypted and stored in the registry.

6. Recommended Reading:
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OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;270670

OLEXP: How to Backup and Restore Outlook Express Blocked Senders List and Other Mail Rules
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;276511
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I saved the application data for each Idenity I had and now want to move it back to the newly created idenity.
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CrazyOne,
This is alot of information. Thanks.   Since I already saved my files by copying them to an orb disc, does that mean I won't be able to recover them since I didn't back them up right?
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What you backed up from is it still available? If not then you may be out of luck unfortunately. :(
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The files are on an orb.  I copied the dbx folders to my new identity that I created in OE6 but it does not show up.  I just want to know how to move the files back.  I checked and they are not read only.
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My computer was wiped clean.  
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Did you while in OE do File > Import
and select OE 6
But first remove the files from your that you place on the hard disk.
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Or recreate the folders from within OE then close it down and copy your files over the hard disk.
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And are you sure you place the files in the appropriate folder

OE will tell you which folder is being used.

Tools > Options
Maintainance tab
Store Folder button.
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Yes I did file. import and select OE6  I don't understand your second sentence. remove the files for your ?What?
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Yes I did file. import and select OE6  I don't understand your second sentence. remove the files for your ?What?
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yes I'm sure it's in the right folder. How do I copy my files over the hard disk.
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Please give me a list of the files you are trying to import please.
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Thanks for your help.  I will try some of your suggestions.  I think all is lost though and I may just cry.
  I have never used this site before.  I'm not sure what the points are for.  Do I click on accept if I accept your help or what?
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How do you want the list of files?
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I had different folders for each of my identities in OE5.  I copied them to an orb.  I created the same identities and now I am trying to copy the individual folders back into the identities but OE6 does not recognize them.  They do  not show up.  Maybe I'm just not making my problem clear enough.
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I just discoverd how to do it.  Thank you for you help.
Do I click on accept for all your trouble trying to help me?
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>>>Do I click on accept for all your trouble trying to help me?

Yes

How did you get it to work?
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I clicked on import > Messages > OE6 > Then I clicked on OE6 store directory and browed to my orb disc and clicked next.  I just needed to find how to browse to the directory I needed to import.  
Thanks for your patience.  I usually find out how to do things by trial and error but was having no luck.  
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by the way, how do I earn points if I have another question?
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You can earn 5 points a day for every day you are on EE. So for example if you were to login for 30 straight days you would have 150 points.

If you think you are going to ask quite a few questions you can get the pay service called Premium Service and this gives you unlimited points to use

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Thanks again.  You were very kind
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You are welcome :)
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