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Is there a way to start my computer without a keyboard. If I try now - I get an error (no keyboard detected) and Windows will not start.

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Romans
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by:spiderfix
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There'll be an option in the BIOS to "boot with no errors".
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by:Romans
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I see nothing like this on my machine. It is an old HP PII

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by:CrazyOne
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Windows requires a keyboard. What is it you are trying to do?
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by:Romans
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I have an old machine I want to just run as a file server. Don't want the overhead of keyboards etc ...

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by:rayt333
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Sure you can boot Windows without a keyboard, if you are using a USB keyboard it is not detected until windows is fully booted so windows does not need the keyboard on boot.

The only thing is unless you are using a USB keyboard then you would not have access to it after starting windows.


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by:CrazyOne
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Hmmm well it can be run as a file server but it is pretty picky what it thinks it needs device wise to run.

I can't remember if after you get into Win98 and then pull the keyboard if that freezes the OS or not.
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by:rayt333
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Look in the CMOS setup to see if you can disable the PS/2 port for the keyboard.
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by:Romans
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rayt333,
Not sure my computer skills go that far - how do I view the CMOS?

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by:rayt333
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When computer is first booting up, usally the screen where you see memory being counted, there should be something like "press ctrl (or something else) to enter setup"

What is the brand and model of this computer?
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by:CrazyOne
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Get into the BIOS like you did before.
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by:Romans
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CMOS = BIOS ... ?
I looked in the BIOS before and there is nothing there to disable the keyboard requirement ...

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by:rayt333
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Was there an option to select "do not halt on errors"
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by:CrazyOne
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No no Ray said disable the PS/2 port
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by:rayt333
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What about an error about missing mouse? do you also get that one?

I don't know if this will work, but try booting up with them attached, then go into device manager and disable them, then you should be able to disconnect them without freezing machine (only a temp measure at best)

I would suggest the USB keyboard and mouse and see if that will work OK.
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by:speyfisher
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interesting question-- but without a keyboard how are you going to shut it down?  remotely etc..
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by:rayt333
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look at this article, maybe it will give you an idea that you can use:
http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/January2001/article186.shtml
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by:Romans
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OK - so there is nothing that seems to work on my machine. What do I do with the points since none of the comments have worked for me. I appreciate all the suggestions ...

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by:stevenlewis
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The limitation is the old BIOS, newer bios's have the option to boot without a keyboard, but older ones did not.
they do make a device
http://www.cadesigns.co.uk/dk1b.htm
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by:Insolence
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I don't know if this'll work for you...  =)  But I use a old PII as a server, I threw in a PS/2 to USB connector, and it stopped complaining in BIOS.  =P  Try that if you have one lying around from a USB mouse or keyboard.  =)

 - Insolence
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by:Horn E. Towed
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Start the machine with a keyboard.
After boot is complete, disconnect the keyboard & take it with you.
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by:Horn E. Towed
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Oops.
Just saw C1 had posted the same.
Sorry.
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Romans:
This old question needs to be finalized -- accept an answer, split points, or get a refund.  For information on your options, please click here-> http:/help/closing.jsp#1
EXPERTS:
Post your closing recommendations!  No comment means you don't care.
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by:Horn E. Towed
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Crazy's suggestion that I referenced above was the best solution [and maybe the only one considering the apparent limited Setup options].
As far as the original question...the answer is that with this machine, as described, the answer is "no", but Romans didn't seem to want to accept that.

PAQ w/no refund or give it to Crazy.
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by:Romans
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All,
I ended up buying a KMV switch and plugging my file server into this. This was the only solution that I found that gave me what I wanted. I will ask to have this question deleted ...

Thanks for all the suggestions
Romans
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by:rayt333
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Actually there was several good suggestions (or work arounds) mentioned above, but since user seemed to not want any further help and wasn't computer techie enough to try them they went off in different direction.
:>)

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by:rayt333
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There was a couple of suggestion made that did exactly what the questioner was seeking.
One was homemade:
http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/January2001/article186.shtml
And the other was factory made:
http://www.cadesigns.co.uk/dk1b.htm

Plus there was some other suggestions made that may have worked:
"PS/2 to USB connector"

Problem is that the user admits he isn't very techie
"Not sure my computer skills go that far"
so he didn't try any of those suggestions, and I believe they would have worked if an effort had been put forward.

It is only a 50 point question but the point is the user got his answer <edited for content by SerCouWisMOD the remark was insulting>
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by:rayt333
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Delete the question is OK with me, but I don't think the points should be refunded
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by:Romans
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OK,
Should the points be awarded base on my speculation that somebody's answer was the correct one. Truth of the matter is that none of the solutions worked for me either because they were not exactly what I was looking for - or it simply wouldn't work on the old P120 machine I have. I just did not use one of your solutions.

I honestly don't know what is the right thing to do with this one and I apologize to all for my confusion. I am hoping the community support will guid me in the right direction.

Merry Christmas to everyone.
Have a safe and happy holiday.

Romans
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by:Horn E. Towed
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If you didn't get a solution don't award the points.
[in spite of someone else's rantings & insults]

Romans has made a good point and is, in the final assessment, the one to determine what, if any, solution was the one that worked.
Now that Romans has come back to state his/her position I think that should remain the first consideration.

PAQ or delete.
Refund


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by:rayt333
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StoneG
<edited for content by SerCouWisMOD the remark was insulting>

A solution was provided above, it doesn't matter if the user doesn't like the solution, it is still correct.
Why are you encouraging users to ask for refund simply because they don't like a correct answer.
I am not  ranting and I was not insulting the questioner, I was only repeating his comment where he stated "Not sure my computer skills go that far"

Maybe you are spending too much time here and just need to take a break <edited for content by SerCouWisMOD the remark was insulting>.

Have a nice day!!!

No need for you to insult me again, I will turn my notification off and let the question be deleted just to make you happy.
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by:Horn E. Towed
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wow!
Careful rayt333.
Some one who didn't know better might mistake that for ranting.

Sorry if you think I insulted YOU.
I'm not sure how you would get that impression since I have not addressed you, but I apologize. :-\

I do think that your calling Romans "stupid" falls within the parameters of being an insult.

Romans> I would like to apologize for the behavior you have witnessed.
It's not normal to be exposed to this kind of behavior in the tech areas.

Happy Holidays.

Sg


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