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Hello, I'm jbosch(vosk) and I have a problem on starting to learn Java. I downloaded the "j2sdk-1_4_2-nb-3_5_1-bin-windows" from the java.sun page, and when I try to install it never finishes the instalation, instead of that (after waiting ¡hours!) the installation progress barr is styll at 8% and finally the system crashes because "IExplore does not respond", so I have to restart my computer. Each time that I try to install it there's no right instalation. Also I deleted the install program, download a second time the installation program from java sun and also the same error. I'm using a Windows ME s.o.
So I haven't start yet to learn Java, is that the sdk that I may install? I have an editor to start learning Java, and when I  run it, appears "I can't find jdk1.4 or above on your pc, you must install it. Download from -the javasun adress-". But in the JavaSun page there isn't any jdk, only sdk and other.
My question is: how can I start learning Java and from where can I download the jdk1.4 or above?
Thank you.
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by:CEHJ
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Sounds like you may have a corrupt download. Try using the Sun download manager

http://wwws.sun.com/software/download/sdm/sdm_index.html
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I had the same problem as you once when I was trying to download the SDK.  I ended up deleting all the install files, and restarting the computer.  Then the next time I tried to download it, it worked fine.
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Download the offline installation exe.
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>>how can I start learning Java
Here we go: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/ 
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by:vosk
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CEHJ, I also thought that maybe have a corrupted file, so I deted it and redownload, but also with the same problem. Now I have download the Sun Dwnload Manager, and when I start it appears (on the DOS prompt) "Starting java interpreter... Command or filename not valid."

lwinkenb, yes I also have retart my pc and delete the few instaled files. When the system crashes the install prog is still al 8%, and the only files installed are in a folder on Program Files named Java Bean, in the Start Menu and a direct access to JavaBean application on the desktop. Althought I restart the pc, delete the instaled files, redownload another time the sdk installer, finally there is the same error.

objects, I already downloaded the offline instalation. Also I tryed to install with my PC 'connected to the net', also without conection, also closing all the not necessary programs, defragmented the hd, but the install never finishes to install.

b_vishwajit, I have seen the 'Get Started Tutorial' but it seems that is presupposed that the user have an interpreter, a compiler and maybe a java editor, but it don't say that first off all you must have that interpreter to test your progressions, or that other compiler to try your first java program, or etcetc...

Thank's all you for your time.
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Is the installation file exactly the same size as it says it is on the site?
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Yes, the downloaded file is exacly as the indicated on the java.sun.com page. In the java page I enter the name to search on the field of 'Advanced Search' (at the top), I enter 'jdk1.4' and it finds 81 results. The first two results are 'Java 2 Platform Standard Edition' and 'J2SE 1.4.1 SDK Download'. Althought I'm searching for 'JDK' (seems that not appears on the found list) I select to download the 'J2SE 1.4.1 SDK', redirects to a new page and I select the 'JRE Download' for '32-bit Windows, Linux, etc', redirect the terms of use and licence agreement's page, I accept, click on 'Continue', and appears the page to download 'Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition 1.4.1_06 ', I select download for 'Windows (all languages, including English)'. The size is 9.76MB. The downloading process seems right, and the downloaded file is exact the same size.
I tryed to install another time but with the same result.

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>>The size is 9.76MB.

That's the JRE. You need the SDK
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Now I have correctly installed the Java Runtime Environment and I start downloading the offline instalation from the link you say (48.2MB); give me some time to try the install.
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Hello, it seems that finally it works.
Thank's.
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