How to Bind two modems together to get more speed

When a server provides a different phone number for each modem used in the
connection, the client calls each number in turn when it needs to bring up an
additional line. If only the first modem is associated with a number, the client
uses BAP to ask the server to supply a phone number. This behavior is true for
both a simple dial-up client and for a demand-dial client.
 
In order for the server to respond to the client's incoming request, the server
must know the phone numbers for each of its own modems. There are two ways for
the server administrator to enter the called number for each of the modems:
 
1. For dial-up connections, type the phone number for each modem on a port:
 
   a. Click Start, point to Programs, point to Administrative Tools, and then
     click Routing And Remote Access.
 
   b. In the console tree, click the appropriate server icon, right-click Ports,
     and then click Properties.
 
   c. In the Ports Properties dialog box, click the ports that correspond to the
     dial-up equipment, and then click Configure.
 
   d. In "Phone number for this device" box, type the phone number, and then
     click OK.
 
2. For demand-dial connections, type the phone number for each modem listed in
  the Callback tab:
 
   1. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click "Network and Dial-up
     Connections".
 
   2. On the Advanced menu, click Dial-up Preferences.
 
   3. On the Callback tab, click to select "Always call me back at the numbers
     below".
 
   4. For each modem listed on the Callback tab, click the modem, click Edit,
     and then type the phone number for that modem.
 
   5. Click OK.
 
   NOTE: You can then disable callback by selecting No Callback. The phone
  numbers will still apply.

I meant how to add the bandwidth of the two dial up connections together so that BOTh of them operate at the same time with their bandwidths combined to provide more performance. In normal circumstance when you dial up two connections together only one of them operates at one time while the second one remains idle. I want to use the DUAL COMBINED output of both of them

whats your operating system?

The operating system is windows 2000 standard. Again brother what i want is to BIND two SEPARATE internet dial up connections having since i have two SEPARATE phone lines to get dual output. My computer is a stand alone computer for my own personal home use. Just wanted to rev up my dial up speed a bit since i dont have DSL here. I know about multilinking accounts offered by ISP's but they are expensive. Can i BIND two separate internet connections together??
                 Thanking in advance

FYI:

HOW TO: Set Up Multiple-Device (Multilink) Dialing in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=kb;en-us;Q307849

if you are using other OS such as windows nt/2k/98, the procedures of establishing multilink connections are similar.

hope it helps,
bbao

I said in my post before that multilinking is not what i want to do. That is a completely different thing and is enabled from the ISP side. For that you HAVE to use an internet connection FROM THE SAME ISP. What i am trying to bonding two  DIFFERENT ISP CONNECTIONS. Its technically completely different from multilinking.
            What i am trying is not done on the ISP side but on the client side. And you dont need a multilinking account for that(which is a single account infact which binds two internet connections together from which are from the SAME ISP) Infact multilinking accounts are not TWO accounts but infact its only one account which supports two dialup connections and multilinking has to be supported on the ISP side as well as the client side for you to get a multilink output. In my case I dont require multilinking from the server side since i am BINDING two SIMPLE DIALUP connections together ON MY SIDE.
                                              Peace
                           

oh, sorrry for misunderstaning... anyway, it is possible. commonly we can do it with a full-feature router, but you want to do same on a windows 2000 server with two dial-up connections to different ISP withr two common modems? right? i am thinking abou it...

Yeah you got my question right( excluding you mistaking my windows 2000 professional for a server). Whatever has to be done has to be done at the software level on the client side(for a normal home computer usage). I hope you understand my question better. Infact i am aware of a software available at www.nat32.com but i was hoping that i would be able to get some more information on this subject since its not at all a common problem
                     Peace
                      Nerd

hi, sorry for late reply. i think the easy way to do what you want (double speed) is to split the routing, make the two connections work together. by default, you have only one default gatway, which means you have only one way to send out your packets to the internet, over one link. by using following command, you can split your outgoing packets to two links according to the destination addresses. i am here to assume all your outgoing traffic to the internet are random, no large volume to a specific address or group of addresses.

route add 0.0.0.0 mask 128.0.0.0 x.x.x.x metric 1
route add 128.0.0.0 mask 128.0.0.0 y.y.y.y metric 1

where x.x.x.x is the external address of your first connection, y.y.y.y for the 2nd.

hope it helps,
bbao

how is it?

Sorry for the belated reply.
I am sorry brother, this still does not solve the problem. How will the computer know which connection to use?? It still continues to use the default connection.
                       Sincerely

>> How will the computer know which connection to use??

the routing table tells computer which connection to use, depending on the destination addresses, in my example above, for addresses before 128.0.0.0, go to gateway x.x.x.x, else goto y.y.y.y. you may add you desired routes into your routing table.

in fact, what you want is a load balance and fault redundancy solution for two internet links to different ISPs even different autonomous systems, which commonly needs dedicated software even hardware, and also means additional cost. by using my method, you can easily divide your traffic on two links according to destionation address. if you know your most often visited addresses/segments, you can add it by yourself to improve efficiency. anyway, it is workable but needs manual configuration.

>> How will the computer know which connection to use??

the routing table tells computer which connection to use, depending on the destination addresses, in my example above, for addresses before 128.0.0.0, go to gateway x.x.x.x, else goto y.y.y.y. you may add you desired routes into your routing table.

in fact, what you want is a load balance and fault redundancy solution for two internet links to different ISPs even different autonomous systems, which commonly needs dedicated software even hardware, and also means additional cost. by using my method, you can easily divide your traffic on two links according to destionation address. if you know your most often visited addresses/segments, you can add it by yourself to improve efficiency. anyway, it is workable but needs manual configuration.

No brother it does not solve my problem(even if it is possible). I want to maximize my downloading speed from a SINGLE site which ultimately is the same IP address and not different IP addresses. I already mentioned a software which could do the job which i mentioned but i was hoping for some other software as well which could do the job.
          Sincerely
          Freaky

freakynerd:

>> I want to maximize my downloading speed from a SINGLE site
>> which ultimately is the same IP address and not different IP addresses.

this is the FIRST time you mention about the "from a SINGEL site" issue. if so, the answer is short: NO. theoretically speaking, it is a 'by-design' issue of tcpip.

>> I want to maximize my downloading speed from a SINGLE site
>> What i am trying is not done on the ISP side but on the client side
>> What i am trying to bonding two  DIFFERENT ISP CONNECTIONS.

it is IMPOSSIBLE since you are trying to DOWNLOAD from a SINGLE site. more detail? 1) 'download' means the main traffic is from remote site to local, the route is specific even fixed and not controlled by you, so it will go back to your computer through only ONE isp, how can you balance the load? 2) 'sigle' mean the traffic of ONE download SESSION may not be divided on two routes to the remote site due to tcpip's implementation.

>> Infact i am aware of a software available at www.nat32.com

i have read its instructions on 'Connection Aggregation', but i dont think it means you can do above, you may get CA's benefits when you visit different sites, at least different SESSIONs. you may ask the software vendor to confirm if i am correct.

>> My computer is a stand alone computer for my own personal home use.

so i did NOT introduce any expensive commercial solution to you, just gave you feasible simple solution. i know it is rough but dont forget it is also FREE and NO extra software and hardware needed. for more explanations, please see my comments.

>> I already mentioned a software which could do the job which i mentioned
>> but i was hoping for some other software as well which could do the job.

have you tried the software?and make sure it can EXACTLY do what you want? personally, i dont believe. but, anyway, if the software really does exactly, i am very happy to learn a lot and correct my viewpoint!

Netminder:

sorry, i dont agree to delete this question since i had already given a close solution before his/her last comment. but now, i think the question's answer is NO. according to EE's rule, such question can NOT be deleted and refund. certainly, you may ask other more experts to confirm if i am right. personally, i certainly think my comments shoudl be accepted.

regards,
bbao

I am sorry Brother but your answer does not even come close. Right from the beginning you have been TOTALLY unable to comprehend the question at first and then to answer it. Initially you suggested multilinking(which i had in my question ITSELF RULED OUT). In my earlier post itself i answered my question by mentioning the software itself. You have been giving continuously ENTIRELY wrong and inappropriate answers right from the beginning. Sometimes you talk about configuring a router sometimes different which EVEN IF RIGHT ANSWERS(which they are not) donot work in my case since i am a home user(PLUS DONONT SOLVE MY PROBLEM AS WELL EVEN IF I DO EMPLOY THEM).I did not want to ask you to stop cause i might sound rude. PLUS "CONNECTION AGGREGATION" is EXACTLY what i wanted. What else have i been asking for. Its ABSOLUTELY WORKABLE, i have tried it out cause it divides the workload between the two connections on the CLIENT SIDE using a scheduling algorithm. I hope you will study this concept on your own first(spending some time) and then reply

Netminder:
          I would request you to go through the whole chain of questioning yourself and then decide for yourself. Besides CONNECTION AGGREGATION is ABSOLUTELY possible since its done on the client side using NAT32 so i recommend that you check out the utlity for yourself too which my friend has declared UNWORKABLE(because according to him it CONNECTION AGGREGATION IS NOT POSSIBLE). The answers which i have received donont MATCH MY PROBLEM STATEMENT AT ALL(DONT even come close). I myself knew a practicable solution(see it for yourself in my comments) but i thought i will received a SECOND suggestion as well  but i have constantly only received wrong and suggestions which donot match my problem set.
            I REST MY CASE I AM SURE MY FRIEND WILL HAVE LOTS OF OTHER COMMENTS TO MAKE DISPUTING ME AS HE HAS DONE RIGHT FROM THE START NOTWITHSTANDING MY CORRECTING HIM ALL THE TIME. I TRUST YOUR JUDGEMENT SEE THE WORKABILITY OF THE SUGGESTIONS WHICH HE HAS GIVEN RIGHT FROM THE START AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.
            Sincerely
              Nerd

Nerd,

Bridging the two connections will accomplish what you want.  All you need to do is right click and click on bridge connections (or something similar).  A wizard (should) appear and walk you through the process.

Ask if you need anything else.

AndyITsupport

Netminder, freakynerd needs a solution for TWO ISPs. the two scenarios are quite different, especially for the routes of  incoming traffic from one SINGLE site on the internet.

AndyITsupport, same question, are you sure bridging will work with 2 ISPs? they have different ip addressing scopes and routes to the internet. in fact, freakynerd wants do load balance with 2 modem connections 2 different providers in order to improve performance for ONE downloading session from one SINGLE site.

ok, i am looking for more information on how XP implements bridging for 2 or more network connections (of modems).

any input are welcome,

Nerd,

This question is getting old.  Please accept and answer or if you need more help, just let us know.  We are here to help you.  If you have any requests, just let me know.

AndyITsupport
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bbao,

I am almost certain it will work.  As long as the settings for each modem are set correctly.

AndyITsupport

AndyITsupport:
I did not follow your answer? Where do i right click? Where does the option bridge connection appear. I have tried clicking on the connection itself and this option does not appear.
Note(I asked a previous question as well which has been deleted if anyone of you knows the answer to that question i will post it again)
                                          Nerd

Nerd,

You need to right click on the connection.

Nerd,

>> I want to maximize my downloading speed from a SINGLE site
>> What i am trying is not done on the ISP side but on the client side
>> What i am trying to bonding two DIFFERENT ISP CONNECTIONS.

you are trying to download a file from a single site through an aggregated connection from two different ISPs over two modems. do i understand correctly? please confirm it and thanks in advance.

regards,
bbao

Yes thats right bbao

Andy:
   I have win2k i have tried right clicking on the connections but nowhere does the bridging option appear
                      Nerd

any comments please?

Sorry...been busy with other things.

I agree with bbao saying it cannot be done the way to want it to.

Nerd,

Please post and tell me what you would like done to this question.


AndyITsupport
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sfaruqi

any idea on where i can buy/download IMASS?

Cheers... OP

hi opinsky, i tried to google it and found this:

Modem Bonders
Amquest Modem Comsuite Software (Imass)
888/715-7444
www.amquestmodem.com

Free with Amquest modem, quick downloads, doesn't require an ISP with MLPPP support.
Proxy-server problems, FTP support via browser only.

http://www.webshopper.com/reviews/article/0,aid,9522,pg,5,00.asp

not sure if this helps or not.

regards,
bbao

Hi OP:

Read this article

http://www.theboost.net/boost_internet_speed/2.htm

For Imass email me at *removed by Netminder* and be ready with a 2mb email box space.

And Yes Sorry for the Delay. But believe me I had problem on my machine to post any reply to this Question particularly I mean there wasn't any POST button in those days (or may be I was getting blind or dump)

See this:

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21527269/How-to-write-comments-for-close-question-Q-20810411.html

And subject the email with "IMASS". Hope I am still on time :)

faruqi