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Here's the effective points split for:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Web_Languages/JSP/Q_20812434.html

Don't be sad ;-)
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Hahahaha ;-)

You didn't have to ;-)  I was joking ;-)
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The way I see it.  This is a collaborative site.  The experts *should* be friendly and play fair.  It's all well and good being hard-nosed business-oriented consultant-type person when money is involved and you're having to compete to earn a living, but the points on EE are supposed to reflect your expertise, not how many you can grab.

Besides, I've now got a useful portal to send you comments :-)  Hee Hee ;-)

Not that I'm bitter and twisted about it, but here's what I meant about objects and CEHJ ;-)  What do you think?

My answer (all nicely timestamped before theirs)
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Languages/Java/Q_20784472.html

Two other (almost identical) questions with objects and CEHJ's answers accpted respectively:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Languages/Java/Q_20784487.html
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Languages/Java/Q_20785563.html

The last one has the dicussion I had with objects and CEHJ regarding how fair they felt this to be.  Hmmmm.

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Hehe, yeah :-(

The java forum does tend to end up being a little bit "dog - eat - dog"...

(not implying that CEHJ or objects are canines) ;-)

I think those two are off on their own sometimes having a little battle to see who can get the most million number of points ;-)

Hehe, though it could be said that me and girionis are having the same kind of battle, but further into "mid-table obscurity" ;-)

It is hard when you pour loads of time and effort into helping someone out, only for them to award 100% of the points to someone else...  I guess it is a problem with the "split" link being so far down the page, and not many people know about it, or the rules for using it (20 points per expert, etc)...

I do have to keep reminding myself that I do this to help others, learn new things, and chat to cool people with similar interests -- hehe, sometimes dragging questions WAY off topic -- more than I do this for points ;-)

9 times out of 10 though, it's not the experts who cause the friction, but the people who are new to the site, or don't understand it's finer points ;-)

Stay chilled Jim, my man!

>_<

Tim
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;-)

I know that objects is very keen on keeping the number 1 position.  He references it on his web site ;-)

Speaking of off-topic :-)...

Do you know if EE still do T-Shirts for the experts?  One of the reasons I gave up with it about 3 years ago was because I'd earned a free T-Shirt and they didn't send it.  Worse, they never replied to my e-mails asking why :-(  I only wanted a reason :-(

;-)
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Yeah, EE went into recievership about 3 years ago, and people like WesLennon (who were experts at the time) clubbed together, and bought it...

I managed to get one t-shirt 5 years ago, but they had to stop doing them as the site wasn't making any money, and was being run for fun...

From my intermittent chats with Wes, he is interested in starting something similar up again, but it is just a matter of time and checking the cash-flow (and checking with the other owners of the site)

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Community_Support/Suggestions/Q_20599617.html

Posting a message asking about the ressurection of t-shirts in the Suggestions TA might get things moving again? ;-)

Hee hee, I guess we might have to pay postage though...now that there are so many of us who have enough points for one ;-)

Tim
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Nice one Tim ;-)

>> I know what you mean tho...  It gives me 5 mins of every hour to worry about other peoples coding problems, rather than my own ;-)

<cough> ...  <cough>  Surely you mean 55 mins of every hour ;-)
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hehehehe....shhhhhhh!

My boss might be watching ;-)

*giggle*
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Anyway, today is "Test and Evaluate JBuilder X day" :-)

Woo!
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;-)

Have you come across this?  I thought objects was good ;-)

http://www.javaspecialists.co.za
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That's a wicked site!!

This should get us a few more points per week :-)

http://www.javaspecialists.co.za/archive/archive.html

Load of goodies :-)
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I've been a subscriber to his newsletter for a couple of years.  Some of the stuff he comes out with is quite amazing.
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Hi Tim,

  Are you going to the next Sun Tech Day in London (February) http://uk.sun.com/events/2004/feb/techdays/index.html

  If so, would you like to say "hello" ;-) ?
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Oooooh...didn't know about that :-)

I've sent off my application, not had a response yet, so don't know if I got a place reserved :-)

Being in Manchester, it may be a bit hard to do both days, but when I get the schedule (if I get a place), I'll pick a day, and drive down for it :-)

It would be cool to meet for a beer or two, or a spot of lunch :-)

Hehehe, gotta convince my boss it will be "useful" now, so I don't have to take it as a holiday ;-)

*giggle*

Tim
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;-)
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Yay!  Might even get expenses -- hee hee!
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Hi Tim,

Prompted by the following question, I've actually got off my arse (metaphorically speaking ;-)) and package up an application I've written.  If you have the time or inclination, I would be extremely grateful for your feedback because I know that you know what your talking about ;-)

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Languages/Java/Q_20823472.html

If you don't/can't etc. please add a comment here so that I know it's safe to delete it from my server if it gets too many hits ;-)

Thanx.
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Cool :-)  

It would be cool if it could scan directories for jar files...  I'm not very orgamized, so tend to have jar files all over the shop ;-)

Hee hee!

Maybe scan directories for *.jar, and flag up identical jar files in multiple locations?

Cool :-)

Tim
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What OS are you running it on?  I've only really hammered it on Linux.

>> It would be cool if it could scan directories for jar files...

If you select a directory, it will recurse and look for all jars/zips that contain class files.  You can do this from the root directory if you have time ;-)

>> flag up identical jar files

Excellent suggestion.

Thanx Tim.  Much appreciated :-)

Did you feel that the way it was packaged was acceptable?
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>  What OS are you running it on?  I've only really hammered it on Linux.

Linux :-)  hee hee!

> If you select a directory, it will recurse and look for all jars/zips that contain class files.  You can do this from the root directory if you have time ;-)

Coool :-) :-) :-)

> Excellent suggestion.

:-)  Don't forget to check the file size ;-)  (and is "version" stored in the Manifest?  it should be ;-) )

> Did you feel that the way it was packaged was acceptable?

Yeah!  It's cool :-)  Maybe a sh script and a batch file would help the scaredy-cats (or those who can't read README.txt) ;-)

Tim
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Thanx :-)
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Congratulations, your Wizardship ;-)
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;-)  Hee hee!  My Wizardly ways ;-)

The scores should be:

Hard worker....50,000
Slacker.............150,000
Skiiver..............300,000
Manager..........500,000
Unemployed....1,000,000

Tim
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LOL  :-D
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Merry Christmas Tim ;-)  Hope you have a good one.

Latest ClassFinder (including popup menu on sources, button to clear results area and duplicate file finder ;-)) is available at:

http://oss.pncl.co.uk/oss-ltd/downloads.jsp

That duplicate checking was quite painful ;-)

I've also improved the JAR packaging, so you only need "java -jar ClassFinder.jar" now :-)
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> http://oss.pncl.co.uk/oss-ltd/downloads.jsp

"The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server."

Hehehe, I'm guessing that you're kicking the server as we speak :-)

Or on holiday ;-)

Cool, I'll have a gander at it :-)

Sorry, I've been off with no internet access to speak of for the last 2 weeks!!  Feel all rested now, but all of my programming skills seem to have become a big pile of mine-pie like mush ;-)

Hee hee...

Time for a couple of days of getting slowly back into it, and working off the gin ;-)

Hee hee

Hope you and yours had a cool Christmas!!  And I hope you didn't get sleeted on as much as I did at New Year!! ;-)

Tim
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Hi Tim,

  Nice to have you back (CEHJ has been a bit of a pain over that last few days ;-)).

  My ISP is being gently nudge in the rear-end with my boot at the moment ;-)  I'm hoping to have it sorted out by lunchtime.
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Hee hee!  Good luck!! :-)

May I suggest a steel-toe-capped boot?  You can get more range on it ;-)

Hee hee!

Glad you're ok!!

Tim
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OK.  We're up and running, with the proper URL now too ;-)

http://www.oss-ltd.com

or if you want to just go straight to the download:

http://www.oss-ltd.com/downloads/ClassFinder.zip

Hope you like the new look ;-)
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Coooool :-)

Your website looks much nicer too :-)

Hehehe....think I need to do mine, and stop it being a general mess of files with some sort of html page ;-)

Hee hee

One thing...if you fluff the regex, it locks up ;-)

ie:  Find "*woo*" and tick the regex box ;-)

Tim
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So you can avoid having to download the entire thing again, I've put the jar file on the system too.

http://www.oss-ltd.com/downloads/ClassFinder.jar

I spent so long trying to create valid regular expressions when I was testing, that I neglected to try some invalid ones ;-)
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