Local Access denied & Changing Ownership of all Files Created and/or Modified

we have a win2k server that is part of a workgroup (not AD).  it is simple peer to peer net config.  

when local users of this workgroup create a file and/or change the file. (could be excel or word or a simple .txt) the ownership belongs to that person and only them.

even administrator on the server itself can not access the permisions.  by right clicking the file and selecting properties then security changes must be made in the advanced tab.  on the server itself i have to set the ownership of the file to administrator and then save then open again where i will see that the local user that created the file and "system ".   then i delete the 2 users and add everyone.

this is fine until someone else looks at the file and makes a change.  then it will do the same thing and remove everyone and restrict to olny that user and system again.

what gives?

on the server the only "local security policy setting" that ever mentions service is the "impersonate the client after authentication" that has administrator administrators and service.


i need to be able to have any client (that is part of the server users group) create and modify a file and be able to have everyone else do the same to that file.

currently the parent folders are all accessible to everyone and by default the permisions should have propegated down.

anyone got any ideas how i can default to alow everyone to access any shared file or folder unless otherwise specified.  i need some hints asap as i'm on the clock right now.  ;)

thanx,
locum
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LucFEMEA Server EngineerCommented:
Look at the advanced security tab, deny "take ownership" rights for users other than the administrator. (don't use it on "everyone", but just the "users" groups.
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2GeeksAuthor Commented:
i just tried to set ownership for users but only administrator and administrators group apear .  under ownership tab i only have these 2 choices.  

after this i selecting administrator to own i allow for users.

i can login via client and access this file but when i change/save it changes the permisions and locks out administrator and others allowing only the single user.

when i try to look at the properties and security of this file i get a msg.

" you do no have permission to view or edit the current permission settings for *.xls but you can take ownership or change auditing settings"  (* being any file)


they are right.  i can change it but once modified that modification changes it back. to local user and system.
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LucFEMEA Server EngineerCommented:
You should not look at the owner tab, but at the security tab. There disable the function to take ownership.
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2GeeksAuthor Commented:
i have changed the security tab all the way up to the c drive and changed the security to users on all subfolders.  i have disabled the inheritance option on the individual file.

when a user now opens the file and modifies it the inheritance gets checked again.

also i have some files that administrator only and when the administrator opens and modifies it goes back to users and inherits is checked again.

the security should not be changing at the will of the client or any permisions of the client or any groups that the client is in.  the security and permisions must remain static.  because the next guy may need to access it or must be restricted as in accordance with the settings on the server.

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LucFEMEA Server EngineerCommented:
Uncheck "change permissions" and "take ownership" for those files/folders make sure all security settings are made that way for all files/folders you want to protect.
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2GeeksAuthor Commented:
will try to uncheck the change permissions on mon when i get back to the clients.  for now,  all users have access and they can do business so there is no production loss like b4 when no one but last modifiers had access.
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LucFEMEA Server EngineerCommented:
Let me know how it goes...
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LucFEMEA Server EngineerCommented:
2Geeks, do you have some progress?
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