Connect to MAC OSX from Windows XP via Remote Desktop?

I read a Mac World article that stated Microsofts new version of RDP for MAC was going to allow PC users to connect to Macs via RDP... But, looking at Microsofts web site about RDP for Mac, it seems that the RDP software only allows Macs to connect to other Macs and PCs, but not Pcs to Macs.

I haven't had a change to install the software and try it out yet, but thought someone may have an answer for me sooner than I could do that.

If this isn't possible, is there any other way to connect to a remote desktop session from a WinXP pc to a Mac?

Thanks for any assistance!
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tebacherAsked:
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weedCommented:
Usually at the end of macworld articles they give a version number. Check that version against what is currently available on the web. Might give you some insight into whether its currently possible or whether youre waiting for a new version.
tebacherAuthor Commented:
Thanks Weed, but it seems the version is correct.

Quote from Mac World article: "Microsoft has released Remote Desktop Client v1.0.2 for Mac. The new version is ready for download from the Microsoft Mactopia Web site." URL: http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=7567

Mactopia's web site URL: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx?pid=download&location=/mac/DOWNLOAD/MISC/RDC.xml&secid=80&ssid=9&flgnosysreq=True

They both say version 1.0.2.  I suspect I should believe Microsoft's website. That is unless anyone else knows more about this!
weedCommented:
If Macworld is saying the current versions allow XP to connect to OS X i'd go with that.
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SteveCroninCommented:
The Remote Desktop ]allows Macs to connect to Windows computers.
It is a Mac executable

It DOES NOT allow Windows computers to connect to Macs!

Steve

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weedCommented:
The mac version is a port of the windows version. So technically there's a windows executable too.
SteveCroninCommented:
Weed;

Just interested if you mean that the mac version is a port of TermServ in Win?

Or do you mean that the mac version is a port of something else?

Steve
weedCommented:
No, im talking about the windows version of RDP. The Mac version was created after the windows version, and the two interoperate.
SteveCroninCommented:
Weed;

Checked this site:

<<http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWSXP/pro/evaluation/overviews/remoteaccess.asp>>

Found this:
The Remote Desktop feature is not available in Windows XP Home Edition. However, a computer running Windows XP Home Edition, or any version since Windows 95, can use the client software and Internet access to remotely control a computer that runs Windows XP Professional with Remote Desktop enabled. The client software is available on the installation CD for Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Home Edition.

Remote Desktop is based on the technology behind Terminal Services in Windows NT® Server and Windows 2000 Server. Windows XP Professional now makes this technology available and easy for anyone to use.


So my interpretation is:  
1) Is based on Termserv
2) No designed to support Windows client access to Macintosh.

Steve
tebacherAuthor Commented:
Steve - I agree with you that Windows machines CAN NOT connet to MACs via RDP.  It would be useful, however.

It looks to me like Mac World was wrong (and MS was right)!

I appreciate your comments and will award you the points.

Thanks!
huafiCommented:
The Mac OS RDP client interoperates with Windows XP Pro only in that it allows the Mac to act as a client for the single-session terminal services provided by the Windows XP box (which then acts as a locked terminal server, or slave).

The closest things you have on a Mac are Apple Remote Desktop (http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/) and Netopia's Timbuktu Pro Multiplatform (http://www.netopia.com/software/products/tb2/multi/index.html). They're both significantly more flexible and powerful than the RDP built into Windows XP Pro, and in some ways even more flexible than full-blown Terminal Services/MetaFrame. I've used both, but I haven't used Timbuktu in many, many years. It used to be a really stellar product, but like Apple Remote Desktop, it's really a corporate- or enterprise-level solutions, with the attendant price tag.

Sorry this doesn't really help you --
system_Commented:
NB: Apple's Remote Desktop is a Mac only solution. Note that Apple's Remote Desktop and Microsoft's Remote Desktop Connection are two very different applications, apart from the network aspects.

Timbuktu is a good solution for tebacher's original question.
weedCommented:
Timbucktu costs $. VNC is free, but buggy.
tebacherAuthor Commented:
Weed's correct in assuming I am not willing to pay much for this to work...

I checked out VNC at www.realvnc.com ... I don't see a version for a Mac... Am I missing something?
tebacherAuthor Commented:
Thanks, weed.  I have downloaded the software and will test it out soon.
pcoach4uCommented:
tebacher:
Best way is to use the program Timbuktu 7.0. I have it at home on my PPPoE DSL and it works great. XP to OS X Panther and visa versa.  Unless something haas changed, VNC does not work well without broadband.


tWoLF
krdzine1Commented:
I've used TB2 for a few years and think it's awesome. I've used it to fix my family's computers from across the country on both dial up and broadband... you can even use the "intercom" instead of making long distance phone calls. I am currently trying to setup a client who has a router and running into some snags.

Did you have any problem getting TB2 to work through routers on both ends. I think i've forwarded the ports correctly on both sides but still can't seem to connect. I get a "not responding" error message. Does that mean it sees it but TB2 on the other end is asleep at the wheel??
pcoach4uCommented:
krdzine,  I never did use it on the client's end with a router. Just on my end. Are there any firewalls involed on his end?
krdzine1Commented:
I've got some of the services to work. But the chat, intercom, notify (services using random Ports) won't work.  The control and observe seem to functioning both directions. (that is until recently... today when I try to connect from OSX to WINXP machine TB2 asks for Username and Password but "OK" to connect is all greyed out so I can't complete the connection). I think that might be because I had tried a couple other remote control software packages yesterday (like VNC and RDC) and may have left 1 or other on. Funny the Send command still works fine though.

After trying the others I agree the VNC software is much slower but does work with Apple Remote Desktop from Win to Mac. Windows Remote Desktop Connection is nice from Mac to PC but makes you log the current user out... makes troubleshooting impossible.
mtownsenCommented:
I used OSXvnc from Redstone Software (http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html) to connect to a Mac OS X XServe at work from my Windows XP box which uses TighVNC Viewer.  It works great.  There are times that it will quite on you, but you can always restart it from a SSH login.  
mbelmontCommented:
All,  NetOp Remote Control = everything to everything, Mac, Linux, Solaris, Win98, XP....

Just so you are aware.
josephfreerCommented:
logmein.com is free and it has a mac beta. checkout the beta/labs section of the website.
cimarronlabelCommented:
No, you can't use Windows RDC to control a Mac, but you can use VNC to do it. And VNC is built-in on the Mac (enable it in System Preferences / Sharing -- Apple Remote Desktop). I do this regularly, and have found TightVNC to work best  http://www.tightvnc.com/

Setting up ARD is pretty straightforward; with Apple Remote Desktop selected in System Preferences / Sharing, click on the Access Privileges... button, then turn on the "VNC viewers may control screen with password:" checkbox, and enter a password. Then on the PC-VNC side, enter the IP address for the Mac, enter the password, and you'll be in.
musdtechnologyCommented:
As a side note, for those of you wanting to use VNC on the Mac to access and control Windows computers, you don't need additional software.  VNC Viewer is already built in to OS X 10.5.  To do it just connect to a server:

Go > Connect to server... (or press CMD+K)
In the server address instead of typing smb:// or afp:// type vnc:// and the IP or computer name.

This will use screen sharing and allow you to control the computer the same way VNC always has.  
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