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Posted on 2004-03-24
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There is a device on my network using a 1300 mtu.  How can I find out which device it is?
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by:RDAdams
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What type of wireless equipment are you running?  How many of them do you have.  Check wireless routers etc.
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by:RDAdams
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If you have a large network it helps to diagram out each segment.
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by:skippyllh
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There is no wireless.  My network is pretty small.
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by:lrmoore
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First, how did you determine that there was a device with the MTU setting of 1300?
1300 is a default setting for any system with Cisco VPn client software..
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by:skippyllh
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It was determined by a cisco engineer.  I have a client using my vpn concentrator to access a reporting server.  They have an app that forces them to only use 1500.  They cannot negotiate.  When they try to access my reporting server over a Lan-to-Lan tunnel (pix to 3030 concentrator) the software times out.  I opened a case up with tac and was told after they viewed all of the logs that i have a device in my network that is forcing the mtu to 1300.  it didn't make a whole lot of sense to me and I don't know how to determine the mtu of all of the devices on my network.  (without a lot of manual labor)
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by:lrmoore
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You only need to look at the client, the server, and all devices between the client and the server.

Client -->PIX-->router<---internet--->router-->VPN3030-->switch?-->server

Each interface of each device in between has the ability to be manually adjusted to specify an MTU
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by:skippyllh
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I've looked at all of those.  There is still an issue.  According to the engineer at tac there could still be a device other than those causing this.  I'm just looking for an automated way to determine the MTU of the devices on my network.
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blackss earned 68 total points
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Use network monitor from a W2k server and look for the MTU size you want, or use another network sniffer...find your MTU and look at the IP and u have your culprit.
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by:Jman8R
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If you have a small network, you can check the MTU settings for each PC ( depending on the OS ) through the registry.

See: http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/280/

Although, I have seen cases where Cisco equipment themselves force MTU's down to 1300. This, however, was necessary due to the protocol being used over the ADSL connection.

As said in a previous post... The Cisco VPN software sets the above registry key so that the MTU is 1300. Maybe if you know of one of the clients that has that software installed, it would be a good starting point!
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by:bbao
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>> There is a device on my network using a 1300 mtu.  How can I find out which device it is?

umm... can you ping the device? if so, why dont you just ping it then use "arp -a" to get its MAC address which commonly gives general information of this device, such as brandname. of course, you should make sure the ping client should stay in same broadcast domain where the device resides in.
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