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Multi-Document Interface Windows applications not Maximizing inside the main application window

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The mystery on this continues.
  OS: Win2kPro
  Happened when:  ???
  Happened why:   ???

  Other aggrevating symtoms that may have something to do with this...

  Currently have MSOfficeXP(upgrade from Office2K) and MSOffice97 running concurrently on the that box, and MSO-XP runs so grievously slow that I will not use it anymore on this box.  This was not always the case.

  All programs that allow multiple documents, that usually would allow you to maximize one of those documents INSIDE the application window (resulting in the "close" X's being in the far upper right, one above the other...)

Is this a registry setting for all programs?
Is it just that I have PO'd one of the senior Gods of the OS,...
Can I avoid completely reloading my system from the OS up?  (I would do this but people wouldn't see me for days, and I would not be a happy camper in the interim.)

I will open new questions as needed/recommended to get the box performing to higher standards.

WARNING:  My specialty is MSAccess, NOT OS's.  I'll confess to the stupid stuff I've done, just promise not to laugh too hard.
Can I avoid completely reloading my system from the OS up?

jack
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When was the last time you did this

start > run chkdsk /f /r
reboot
defrag

start > run sfc /scannnow
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How much RAM do you have and so you know if there are know defects in it

Test the RAM

If you can swap out the RAM with known good modules for testing first if you can't do that then test the machine with one RAM module at a time until you tested every module. Other wise run the the following RAM testers.
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NOTE IF THIS DOESN'T FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE RAM THIS DOESN'T MEAN THE RAM IS GOOD you would need to swap out the RAM with known good modules for testing. However if it does find something wrong then chances are the RAM is bad.

DocMemory PC RAM
Diagnostic Software
http://www.simmtester.com/PAGE/products/doc/docinfo.asp

or

http://www.memtest86.com/

or

Windows Memory Diagnostic
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

or

GoldMemory
http://www.goldmemory.cz/
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>>>Is it just that I have PO'd one of the senior Gods of the OS,...

Yes :)
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BTW if you did the following it wouldn't take but an hour or two

http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBJ/tip4500/rh4508.htm

"4508 » What does a Windows 2000 in-place upgrade change and not change?

I described performing an in-place upgrade in tip 3920 » How do I perform an in-place upgrade of Windows 2000?

When you perform an in-place upgrade:

1. Service Packs, hotfixes, and IE upgrades are rolled back.

2. Default registry values are restored.

3. Default permissions are reapplied.

4. COM and WFP are reregistered.

5. Plug and Play devices and the HAL are re-enumerated.

6. Drive letters are changed based upon the current drive and partitions. See Q2324048 - How Windows 2000 Assigns, Reserves, and Stores Drive Letters.

The following is NOT changed:

1. Installed components and programs.

2. Passwords.

3. Third-party registry entries.

4. The computer's role.

NOTE: If you upgraded your computer from Windows NT 4.0, profiles were stored at %SystemRoot%\Profiles. The in-place upgrade creates a \Documents and Settings folder and changes the registry profile to point to it. To fix the problem, use the Registry Editor to navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList. For each user, there will be a SID sub-key and a Value Name of ProfileImagePath. Change the string value to point to %SystemRoot%\Profiles\<UserName>."
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When was the last time you ...  That occurs weekly with defrags on M/W/F/Sat on various individual logical Hdrives (C: thru F:)

Connect this up for me.... how would bad ram show itself as documents not being able to maximize fully in their application windows?
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BAD RAM and defective HDD's can and do very odd unexplainable things.
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You could have a virus or spyware
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256mb of ram and looking at Dell for other system specs.... (ie ram type>..)

Ran Spybot and AdAware.
Reran Norton with the full boot check after live update.
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did this yesterday...
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42 "spys" found and their diplomatic pouches seized and passports revoked...
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I have also searched the registry for everything I can think of that might relate to maximizing a document window inside it's app window.  There are either WAY too many found to dare screwing with, or none.
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Refresh or update all your device drivers especiall the mouse and the video adapter.
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none of this is providing even a flicker of change...
requesting delete.

sorry, thanx
-j-
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could we reduce to 100 and close?
the information provided, while it didn't solve the problem, was of value.
thanx
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