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Hello, could anyone please remind me how we can find out what the client is from the Http request??

For example we have a
1) J2ME,
2) a WAP phone
3) a web page

calling a controller servlet. How this servlet will identify each one of these ???
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by:CEHJ
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Try

request.getHeader("User-Agent");
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by:objects
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the client needs to send something that allows u to distinguish.
Print out the http headers and see if you canb determine anything distinguishing.
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by:CEHJ
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Nothing other than User-Agent should be relied upon and even that is not 100% reliable
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by:objects
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> and even that is not 100% reliable

ie *nothing* can be relied upun as I alluded to in my comment
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by:pouli
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I know how to emulate J2ME, a Java program or a web page
but what about a WAP client ???

There must be a program that runs the WML right ???
Any suggestions please ???
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by:objects
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Its not the technology that dictates it, it is the particular client and how it fills in the http headers.
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by:pouli
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Ok, objects I have got that. (About the http headers)

Could you please advise me about a good WAP emulator ???

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by:kennethxu
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I agree with CEHJ that you should not even had a look at any header other then User-Agent.
and there is a list of WAP emulators:
http://www.wap-shareware.com/directory/wapemulators.shtml
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by:pouli
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Ok then how could I infer what is the type of client ???

According to the MVC pattern I need to know what is the client.
How I will do this?
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by:pouli
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I think I will use the object's way.
Send specific coed with each request in order to understand who is who.
Any other recommendations please ???
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Are you saying you have access to each potential client?
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by:pouli
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CEHJ, yes that's a good point you say.

I have yes. I make the clients. So it's easy to find out. I have done it. I just place a parameter in the URL specifying what is the type of the client.

What would happen though if I didn't ??

Possibly I could just make hypothesis about the client from the user-agent I suppose.

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As you are implementing all the clients then you can set the User-Agent value appropriately to identify the client.
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>>Possibly I could just make hypothesis about the client from the user-agent I suppose.

Yes, as i mentioned earlier. And as i also mentioned, the user-agent is the crucial field and you may well find, therefore, that it's already been set without your needing to do anything - check it.
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by:pouli
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I think we have covered the topic :)
The problem is that all the 3 of you have helped me and the points are too little to be splitted at all of you.

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by:CEHJ
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First of all, since the answers are quite different, you should establish whether you need to do anything special other than read the (pre-existing?) user-agent string.
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by:pouli
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I choosed objects beause he gave the first relevant answer.
But I thank you all htough.
Do not misinterpret me please.
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by:CEHJ
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I'm sorry pouli but your comments don't make any sense. You've now accepted *one* answer only and as far as i'm concerned, i'm pretty certain it's the wrong one as well. Please see the Member Agreement about accepting wrong answers
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by:pouli
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CEHJ your reaction was really fast!
Object's answer was not wrong or unrealted.

But your as well was right. and you have reacted quickly.
OK.
Remind me what I have to do to split the points, because its long time since I made this.

I should go to...
and tell him to split the points.


Tell me where and I will go.
But tommorow because its late here and I am going now.
Everything will be settled.
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> I'm sorry pouli but your comments don't make any sense.
> You've now accepted *one* answer only and as far as i'm concerned,

which is what he stated, so what doesn't make sense ?

> i'm pretty certain it's the wrong one as well.

That'd be why pouli accepted it :-D

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by:pouli
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All have helped a lot and I do not want to make sombody feel bad so I will split the points.

kennethxu the points are not much so I will leave you outside although your refernece was good.
Firstly I will give 25 points to Objects and I will make a new question for CEHJ.
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by:pouli
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Ok, I cannot decrease the points to the question :)
Now I need CetusMOD again how I will split the points ?
I will post a message again.

Hang on.
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by:pouli
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Ok as the admin suggests I will post 2 new questions  with 50 points each for all of you
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by:pouli
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No, that's ok CetusMOD I am happy with this. :)

Sorry, for the late reaction, but they have bloked me from my office's desktop computer.

They do not want me to loose time here and there :(
I cannot even access the mail.yahoo.com/

Anyway.

As I said people go take the points otherwise only the Admin will close this topic :)

My reaction's though will  be a bit late because I have to go to an Internet cafe to login etc....

Talk u later people.
Vitrual community is great isn't it?

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