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Can anyone tell me what files are located in the Boot Image of a Retail or OEM Bootable Windows 98 CD-ROM.

I would like to ascertain these files to build a bootable CD of my own.

The way to obtain these files would be to boot the Windows 98 CD and drop to dos before setup starts.

Then Create a temporary directory on your C: Drive. Call it "Boot".  Then from the A: prompt type copy *.* C:\Boot and press enter.

Then remove the CD and restart your computer.

Can anyone provide me with this information? Directory listing, and contents of autoexec.bat, config.sys?

Thanks

cfrobw
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Hi CFRobW,
> The way to obtain these files would be to boot the Windows 98 CD and drop to
> dos before setup starts.
>
> Then Create a temporary directory on your C: Drive. Call it "Boot".  Then from
> the A: prompt type copy *.* C:\Boot and press enter.
>
> Then remove the CD and restart your computer.

Can you not do this yourself then if it is so easy?

Alex

"You're not dealing with morons here"
                                    (The Big Lebowski)
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by:CFRobW
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Lebowski

I don't appreciate the comment "You're not dealing with morons here"

I don't have the Retail or OEM Bootable Windows CD. I am asking for assistance from someone to identify the list of files and provide me with that list of files and the contents of the autoexec.bat and config.sys.  

I didn't ask how to do it, I explained how to do it, and asked for the information therein.

CFRobW
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Next Better Answer Please!
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by:roadhog_NZ
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I cant tell you exactly but essentially... the cd uses el torinto boot or s'thing like that which is the bootsector for CD.

This is similar to the bootsector of a HDD or Floppy.

for making you own perhaps this would point you in the right direction http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/
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CFRobW,
> I don't appreciate the comment "You're not dealing with morons here"

It's not a comment, it's a signature and actually a truism (for the 80-90% on this site)
You aren't dealing with morons.  If you were it would be called "morons-exchange.com"
There's no need to take exception to it.

> Next Better Answer Please!

You can't control the quality of responses on this site, you get what you get (after all you aren't paying) and generally people post because in their opinion they might be helpful.

you could borrow the Retail or OEM Bootable Windows CD

Alex

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by:CFRobW
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Alex,

I recognized the signature, thats why I didn't reply to your name. I replied to "Lebowski" the one who said the quote that you have there.

Now had you completely read my question to see what I was looking for, you could have deduced that I didn't have the CD.

If You have one, and would be willing to obtain the information for me, it would earn you 125 points.

CFRobW
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CFRobW,
> I recognized the signature, thats why I didn't reply to your name.
?? why reply to a fictional character in a film that will never see this site!???!  Or were you saying that you didn't like the film?  confused...

Yes, one could have deduced but where's the fun in that?

suggest you ask questions in plainer language then no-one has to deduce anything!

Readout from Win 98 CD

From the Readme.txt
              -------------------------------------------
                  Microsoft Windows 98 README for
                        Microsoft Windows  
               (c) Copyright Microsoft Corporation, 1998
              -------------------------------------------



------------------------
HOW TO USE THIS DOCUMENT
------------------------

To view Readme.txt on screen in Notepad,
maximize the Notepad window.

To print Readme.txt, open it in Notepad or
another word processor, and then on the File
menu, click Print.


--------
CONTENTS
--------

LIST OF WINDOWS 98 README FILES

--------------------------------------


LIST OF WINDOWS 98 README FILES
===============================

In addition to Readme.txt, Windows 98 provides
the following readme files in C:\Windows
      

Config.txt      Contains syntax information for
            commands you see with your
            Config.sys file.

Display.txt     Provides information about how
            to configure and correct problems
            for available drivers and how to
            obtain additional display drivers.


Faq.txt         Answers to frequently asked
            questions about Windows 98.

General.txt     Provides information about startup
            problems, the programs that come
            with Windows 98, disk tools, disks
            and CDs, drivers and removable media.          

            This file also contains last-minute
            information received too late to
            include in the other readme files. For
            example, if you have a question about
            a printer, it would be helpful to look
            in General.txt as well as in
            Printers.txt.
      
Hardware.txt    Provides information about known
            problems and workarounds for hardware.
            You may also need to refer to
            Printers.txt or Mouse.txt for specific
            problems.
               

Intl.txt        Provides information to help you
            install and configure Pan European
            regional settings.
      
Mouse.txt       Provides information about known
            problems and workarounds specifically
            for mouse and keyboard problems.

Msdosdrv.txt    Contains syntax information for MS-DOS
            device drivers. For additional help on
            MS-DOS commands, see Config.txt. You
            can also use command-line help at the
            command prompt by typing /? following
            the command name.
      
Network.txt     Provides information about installing
            and running network servers.

Printers.txt    Provides information about known
            problems and workarounds for printers.

Programs.txt    Provides information and workarounds
            for running some specific Windows-based
            and MS-DOS-based programs with
            Windows 98.

Support.txt     Provides information about how to get
            additional support for Windows 98.

Tips.txt        Contains an assortment of tips and
            tricks for using Windows 98, most of
            which are not documented in online Help
            or the printed book.



From the autorun.inf

[autorun]
OPEN=CDSAMPLE\AUTORUN\AUTORUN.EXE
ICON=CDSAMPLE\AUTORUN\WIN98CD.ICO



Raw code From this file

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hmmm most of thet got lost
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e-mail me from my profile and i will zip a copy of autorun.exe up and mail it to you
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by:CFRobW
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Alex,

The files I am looking for are as follows.

When you boot the Windows98 CD-ROM press F8 and drop to DOS. Then Type A: and type DIR.

When you boot the CD-ROM it should create a fake floppy drive from the boot image.

It should have an authoexec.bat and config.sys and several other files that are required to boot to and access an
el-torito  CD-ROM.

Are you saying that the only files in the fake A: drive are as follows:

Config.txt
Display.txt
Faq.txt
General.txt
Hardware.txt
Intl.txt
Mouse.txt
Msdosdrv.txt
Network.txt
Printers.txt
Programs.txt
Support.txt
Tips.txt
autorun.inf
CDSAMPLE\AUTORUN\AUTORUN.EXE
CDSAMPLE\AUTORUN\WIN98CD.ICO

These apear to me to be the files from the directory of the CD-ROM itself, and not the boot files.

Do you know what el-torito is?

Rob
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rob

i don't have a test machine so can't risk booting with a 98 cd - I run XP

i'll lend you my 98 cd if you live close enough!
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by:roadhog_NZ
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ok, I think this is right.....

autorun.inf is only supported by an OS, adding it to a cd will do nothing for you in DOS

the standard bootsector of a floppy I believe is enough to make a CD bootable, however it is not just a case of copying files as they must be within the bootsector of your media,

I have created a bootable CD image with DR-DOS on it. It is a blank bootable ISO that you can add files to. It basically includes enough to get you to command prompt, from there you can add whatever you like

http://www.computertec.co.nz/ee/drdos.zip
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Alex,

If you boot your XP machine with a Windows 98 Startup diskette it shouldn't have a problem.  This disk image disk on the windows 98 CD-OROM is almost exatally the same as a Windows 98 Startup disk. Once your computer beeps and begins to access the CD-ROM drive, press F8 every few seconds till you get the DOS menu where you can drop to DOS.  Thats where you can access the files from.

It shouldn't hurst your XP machine.

I live in Louisiana
Rob
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rob

at the moment my e-mail accounts are frozen! goodnes knows why, some mix up in billing.
e-mail me your address and i'll mail the cd to you, i'll put a temporary address in my profile.
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No one has satisfactorially answered my question.
I found the answer to my question on Damien Stewart's (damien.r.stewart@uts.edu.au) website (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rossstew/drs/sec3.html#bk31) in Australia.

The Question was:

"Can anyone tell me what files are located in the Boot Image of a Retail or OEM Bootable Windows 98 CD-ROM.

I would like to ascertain these files to build a bootable CD of my own.

Can anyone provide me with this information? Directory listing, and contents of autoexec.bat, config.sys?"

The answer to my question is:

Volume in drive A has no label
Volume Serial Number is 1CE6-2154
Directory of A:\

IO       SYS       222,390  05-06-98  8:01p IO.SYS
MSDOS    SYS             0  05-06-98  8:01p MSDOS.SYS
CONFIG   SYS           851  05-06-98  8:01p CONFIG.SYS
COMMAND  COM        93,890  05-06-98  8:01p COMMAND.COM
JO       SYS         2,048  05-06-98  8:01p JO.SYS
ASPI2DOS SYS        35,330  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI2DOS.SYS
ASPI4DOS SYS        14,386  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI4DOS.SYS
ASPI8DOS SYS        37,564  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI8DOS.SYS
ASPI8U2  SYS        40,792  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI8U2.SYS
ASPICD   SYS        29,620  05-06-98  8:01p ASPICD.SYS
AUTOEXEC BAT           462  05-06-98  8:01p AUTOEXEC.BAT
BTCDROM  SYS        21,971  05-06-98  8:01p BTCDROM.SYS
BTDOSM   SYS        30,955  05-06-98  8:01p BTDOSM.SYS
EBD      CAB       272,206  05-06-98  8:01p EBD.CAB
EXTRACT  EXE        93,242  05-06-98  8:01p EXTRACT.EXE
FDISK    EXE        63,900  05-06-98  8:01p FDISK.EXE
FINDCD   EXE         8,009  05-06-98  8:01p FINDCD.EXE
FLASHPT  SYS        64,425  05-06-98  8:01p FLASHPT.SYS
HIMEM    SYS        33,191  05-06-98  8:01p HIMEM.SYS
MSCDEX   EXE        25,473  05-06-98  8:01p MSCDEX.EXE
OAKCDROM SYS        41,302  05-06-98  8:01p OAKCDROM.SYS
        21 file(s)        1,132,007 bytes
         0 dir(s)         321,536 bytes free

-------------------------------------------------START OF AUTOEXEC.BAT---------------------------------------------

@ECHO OFF

set EXPAND=YES Regular 'set' statements
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
cls
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=a:\

IF "%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
LH MSCDEX.EXE /D:oemcd001 /L:D

echo.
IF "%config%"=="SETUP_CD" goto AUTOSETUP
GOTO QUIT

:AUTOSETUP
set CDROM=FOO23
FINDCD.EXE

if "%CDROM%"=="FOO23" goto NOCDROM
path=a:\;%CDROM%\ FINDCD.EXE

%CDROM%
cd \WIN98
echo.
OEMSETUP.EXE /K "/IE /NF"
goto QUIT

:NOCDROM
echo.
echo The Windows 98 Setup files were not found.
echo.

:QUIT

-------------------------------------------------END OF AUTOEXEC.BAT------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------START OF CONFIG.SYS--------------------------------------------------

[menu]
menuitem=SETUP_CD, Start Windows 98 Setup from CD-ROM.
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menudefault=SETUP_CD,30
menucolor=7,0

[SETUP_CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:oemcd001

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:oemcd001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[COMMON]

files=60
buffers=20
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
lastdrive=z


-------------------------------------------------END OF CONFIG.SYS---------------------------------------------------
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No one has satisfactorially answered my question.
I found the answer to my question on Damien Stewart's (damien.r.stewart@uts.edu.au) website (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rossstew/drs/sec3.html#bk31) in Australia.

The Question was:

"Can anyone tell me what files are located in the Boot Image of a Retail or OEM Bootable Windows 98 CD-ROM.

I would like to ascertain these files to build a bootable CD of my own.

Can anyone provide me with this information? Directory listing, and contents of autoexec.bat, config.sys?"

The answer to my question is:

Volume in drive A has no label
Volume Serial Number is 1CE6-2154
Directory of A:\

IO       SYS       222,390  05-06-98  8:01p IO.SYS
MSDOS    SYS             0  05-06-98  8:01p MSDOS.SYS
CONFIG   SYS           851  05-06-98  8:01p CONFIG.SYS
COMMAND  COM        93,890  05-06-98  8:01p COMMAND.COM
JO       SYS         2,048  05-06-98  8:01p JO.SYS
ASPI2DOS SYS        35,330  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI2DOS.SYS
ASPI4DOS SYS        14,386  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI4DOS.SYS
ASPI8DOS SYS        37,564  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI8DOS.SYS
ASPI8U2  SYS        40,792  05-06-98  8:01p ASPI8U2.SYS
ASPICD   SYS        29,620  05-06-98  8:01p ASPICD.SYS
AUTOEXEC BAT           462  05-06-98  8:01p AUTOEXEC.BAT
BTCDROM  SYS        21,971  05-06-98  8:01p BTCDROM.SYS
BTDOSM   SYS        30,955  05-06-98  8:01p BTDOSM.SYS
EBD      CAB       272,206  05-06-98  8:01p EBD.CAB
EXTRACT  EXE        93,242  05-06-98  8:01p EXTRACT.EXE
FDISK    EXE        63,900  05-06-98  8:01p FDISK.EXE
FINDCD   EXE         8,009  05-06-98  8:01p FINDCD.EXE
FLASHPT  SYS        64,425  05-06-98  8:01p FLASHPT.SYS
HIMEM    SYS        33,191  05-06-98  8:01p HIMEM.SYS
MSCDEX   EXE        25,473  05-06-98  8:01p MSCDEX.EXE
OAKCDROM SYS        41,302  05-06-98  8:01p OAKCDROM.SYS
        21 file(s)        1,132,007 bytes
         0 dir(s)         321,536 bytes free

-------------------------------------------------START OF AUTOEXEC.BAT---------------------------------------------

@ECHO OFF

set EXPAND=YES Regular 'set' statements
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
cls
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=a:\

IF "%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
LH MSCDEX.EXE /D:oemcd001 /L:D

echo.
IF "%config%"=="SETUP_CD" goto AUTOSETUP
GOTO QUIT

:AUTOSETUP
set CDROM=FOO23
FINDCD.EXE

if "%CDROM%"=="FOO23" goto NOCDROM
path=a:\;%CDROM%\ FINDCD.EXE

%CDROM%
cd \WIN98
echo.
OEMSETUP.EXE /K "/IE /NF"
goto QUIT

:NOCDROM
echo.
echo The Windows 98 Setup files were not found.
echo.

:QUIT

-------------------------------------------------END OF AUTOEXEC.BAT------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------START OF CONFIG.SYS--------------------------------------------------

[menu]
menuitem=SETUP_CD, Start Windows 98 Setup from CD-ROM.
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menudefault=SETUP_CD,30
menucolor=7,0

[SETUP_CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:oemcd001

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:oemcd001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[COMMON]

files=60
buffers=20
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
lastdrive=z


-------------------------------------------------END OF CONFIG.SYS---------------------------------------------------
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