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I have created a document in Quarkxpress 4.11 which exceeds the maximum size of 2 gigs.  I did not know this at the time and the program saved it even though it exceeded the 2 gig maximum.  The program will not open the document up now.  If I could open it up, I could delete some of it or break it up into several documents, but it won't let me in.  I don't know what to do.  There must be someone who can help me!  Please
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Do we know this question is about the Mac version of Quark?
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This is not a Mac version.  I forgot to state that in my question.
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What is "Graphics TA"?  I'm sorry, please be patient.
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Serpman, do you have access to a MAC? If so see if you can try this tool. I have no Idea on the cost, but they may have a demo that will at least tell you if it is possible

http://www.markzware.com/markztools5/
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Another coupe suggestions...do you have either a copy of Quark 6 or Adobe InDesign CS at your disposal (or know someone who has them and is willing to let you use their computer)? If so, both can import a Quark 4.11 file. You might be able to beat the limitation. The you need to break it up into multiple documents after that, then save it back in quark 4.11 file format.
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Also, this is what lead me to the first link:

Recovering damaged files

When Quark files get so corrupted that you can't even open them, there's not much you can do about it. There are a few "recovery" tools out there, and they all suck. So your best solution is to always make sure that your files are backed up daily. Some operators also use the "auto-save" feature in Quark - this can be a useful tool, however, this increases the chance of having duplicate files, so it's important that all backup files are cleaned up on a daily basis.

Having said that, Markzware's Markztools does a semi-reasonable job of recovering damaged files, but it may not recover the files in the same condition you last saw them in. For example, there may be considerable text reflow, pictures may not appear in boxes, and some objects may disappear completely. But it's still a good tool to have around, because a partially recovered document is better than no document at all.

This tool has been invaluable in my experience at least in one case... fixing damaged style sheets: Use MarkzTools to "recover" or "convert" the document (MarkzTools creates a copy of your original document); Use the Style Sheets dialog in QuarkXpress to append the new stylesheets from the recovered document to your original document, replacing the old ones; Trash the recovered document, and continue to use your original document with the new style sheets.
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I had previously contacted Markzware to see if they could help me.  They said I would need to get the document to them to look at.  The only way to do that is by burning it on to a DVD because of it's size.  I do not have that capability so I have been unable to pursue that road.  Thanks for your input.
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Please tell me that you have at least one friend with a dvd burner? Plus they are only like $100 these days. You should invest. Try to find a friend who has Indesign, trust me that is going to be the way to go to get to your file.
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I just placed an order for a DVD burner.  I unfortunately do not know anyone who has Indesign.  I looked it up and it is pretty pricey, so that doesn't look like an option at this time.
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Do you know for a fact that I would be able to open up my Quarkxpress 4.11 document that is 2 gigs with the Indesign program?  There are several for sale on ebay right now.  Does it matter which version of Indesign it is?
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I do not know for sure, I personally would not buy InDesign unless you planned on using it instead of Quark. The version I would try is Indesign CS (or 8.0 in numbers). Also, Adobe has a trial version http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=31

I would also try this link for more information. It is not that you need to recover the file, but more like you need to try a different application to open. I have seen suggestions that quark on a mac can open corrupt pc quark files and vice versa, Indesign is in hopes that the same may be true. Also, Microsoft Word can import Quark files. You need to find an application that will handle a 2 GB file. Adobe apps are pretty intense so I hope Indesign works.

Good Luck.
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Sorry here is the second link, I forgot it in the message above.

http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/conversion.html
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Yikes, and no backup?

I would visit a freind with a later version of quark.
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From what I have been able to learn, the later versions have the same stipulation about having a maximum 2 gig document.  That's why I have been trying to find any other options.
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I've been looking through everything I can find on Quark, and I keep seeing the 2 gb limitation throughout; I've also only found the same kinds of information Chad has.

About the only thing I've seen suggested a couple of times is to try to import the document into a Word file, and then break it up from there -- but I don't know if that's an option in your case.

Sorry I can't be more help...

ep
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I did try importing it into Microsoft Word but it says, "Word cannot open this file because it is larger than 32 megabytes in size."  
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Damn. Do you by any off the wall chance have an older version of the document saved somewhere? A backup copy that could be renamed and opened?
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No, I don't.  I now know that there was something in Quarkxpress that would have saved the last version had it been set up that way.  Unfortunately, I am not too computer savvy and was new to Quarkxpress so I hadn't done it.  
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AnnieMod,

Everything I've found on QuarkXpress suggests that there is no way to overcome the 2gb limitation. That being the case, I can't see why serpman should be penalized, since we didn't really solve his problem. However, I think we SHOULD leave that information here, as some user down the road will no doubt run into this problem and come looking here for help.

I would object to the idea of deleting, but a PAQ/refund is perfectly in order here.

Regards,
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