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We all do foolish things... me I do it very often.
I had to do a repair to my XP PRO installation.  Before that I was using SBC yahoo dsl just fine.
after the repair.. no worky worky.

I uninstalled the sbc/yahoo package and reinstalled... nothing
I connect the DSL modem to my laptop and it works fine, I am using it now
I go to network places
     create a new connection
          connect to the internet
               set-up connection manually
                   
This is where I guess I would choose to 'connect using a broadband using DSL....as PPPoE'
but this option is greyed out... can not select it.  The only one available is  'always on'

I tried a fix recommended to me by NIKE.... and now I have dents in the case but still no internet access.
please help a lonely bald man ...
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by:sirbounty
ID: 10771403
Did you have the yahoo package installed before?
XP usually does well without DSL software...
Is it on-demand or always-on?

I'd say start by checking your services (Start->Run->Services.msc)

Try starting/enabling:
DHCP, DNS, Network Connections, & NLA.

Also - check your adapter in device manager (start->Run->devmgmt.msc)
make sure it's got the right driver installed...(have you run windows updates?)

How/why did you do the repair?  Just curious...was it a full wipe out/reinstall?
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by:kabaam
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Sirbounty... thanks for stopping by... want a beer while you are here?

I had the Yahoo pack installed before....
It is an on demand hookup
The NIC works fine if I attempt using it for LAN, so I am sure it is a-okay
Prior to the repair of XP... I had all the updates... after...???

It was not a full whipe out.  I wasn't thinking and tried installing 2k server on the slave HDD.
Of course that whiped out xp boot loader stuff and had to repair XP.
To top it off.. the sbc software doesn't work with 2k server.. wo is me.

I found a MS article about deleting the telephony key from the registry and do an xp repair AGAIN.
Hoping there is an easier way... I am starting to twitch and drool on my self
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by:sirbounty
ID: 10771457
What do you have under network connections now?
Anything? - Local network perhaps...
Sounds like it - are you getting an IP address?
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by:kabaam
ID: 10771479
before the repair I had 3 items under network connections

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broadband
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DSL Connection
WAN Miniport

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LAN or High-Speed Internet
------------------------
Lan 1 - Onboard...blah...blah
Lan 2 - PCI NIC

The  LAN connections are there just fine... the broadband isn't.  
I looked through the services... look good to me

This is the MS article I am trying to avoid.  I think I am stuck having to do it
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320558&Product=winxp
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by:kabaam
ID: 10771482
I guess I should stop using the XP disk as a coaster for my Sam Adams lager...:-)
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by:sirbounty
ID: 10771499
Is it just fooling in the registry that bothers you?

Here - try this (I've tested it on my machine and it works fine).
I left the confirm prompt in there though (just to keep you second-guessing ;)

---------delNextId.cmd------------------------
reg save HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Telephony\Cards C:\NextID.reg
reg delete HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Telephony\Cards
-----------------------------------------------

Copy/save this and run it...it's method 1 from your link...
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by:sirbounty
ID: 10771501
LOL - guess so...

Hey - how'd you do the repair anyway?  Sounds like from what you said, you'd have only had to do a fixmbr from RC...
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by:kabaam
ID: 10771531
yeah... that would have been the easy way.... but it was done via boot from cd... install...setup..repair..... blah
Most of what I am doing today is intentionally screwing up... I am trying to learn more about what goes on.
I have not done a full repair before and decided what not try it and see how it works.

I watched an HBO special about the Red Sox today... they talked about the team being plagued with bad decisions... I guess, being a fan, I had to follow suite..

I am thinking I have to go with method 2 for that reason.... there is no CARDS folder in the registry.
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by:sirbounty
ID: 10771535
What is the current NextID value?
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by:sirbounty
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...and maybe you should give up on the sox - but not this!  :D
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by:sirbounty
ID: 10771551
Try chainging NextID to decimal 1
Have you set up your DUN settings at this point?
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by:kabaam
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sounds like someone is disgruntled because the yahnkees lost 2 to Tampa Bay... hehehe
and there is no nextId value... cards and nextid do not exist
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by:sirbounty
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Have you set up your dial-up modem properties?
(not keeping track of them right now - you know they gotta make the little fellas feel good at the onset)
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by:kabaam
ID: 10771596
no DUN... no dial up modem installed
I tried method 2... no worky... I assumed that deleting the folder would cause a repair to recreate it... not there
you say nextid = .1         what kind of registry value is that?   I will try adding it manually and assign a value.
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by:sirbounty
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not .1
1 (as a decimal vs. hex)

Try setting up your dial-up modem properties anyway - it should create the telephony settings for you..
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by:sirbounty
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And stay out of the Lounge :P
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by:kabaam
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hehehe...someone had to do it.  I am looking forward to hearing from Asyscokid.. I believe he is a Sox fan also.
I just read through the ms article that I posted... one more time.

AND... I missed this during the fist 3 visits
"For additional information about other causes for this problem, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
329441 You Cannot Create a Network Connection After You Restore Windows XP"
trying it now...
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by:kabaam
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wooohoo... I think my next post will be from a better computer... I deleted two keys from the registry according to this article
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;329441

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\RasMan\PPP\EAP\25
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\RasMan\PPP\EAP\26

I deleted the keys and restarted the machine.  Open up the network connections and there was my beautiful DSL connection....Wan Miniport (PPPoE)
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by:sirbounty
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Well - here's hoping the sox have worse luck than you... :D
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by:kabaam
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ok... you just mean
anyways... I do have it working.  Deleting those registry keys and now I have 94 notifs to look at.
Including a couple whiners in my lounge post.
Thanks for you help SirBounty

I have heard rumors of third party stuff that is better for running PPPoE DSL.... do you know of any good apps for that?
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by:kabaam
ID: 10771722
taps..taps... lights out, all hands turn into your rack..
Have a good night and thanks for the assistance. See you in the morning I am sure :-)
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by:Fatal_Exception
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Looks like I missed all the In-House fun here..  :)
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by:kabaam
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yeap... My goal was to learn something new yesterday... the best way to learn is to NEED that information.
I learned a thing or three. :-)
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by:Fatal_Exception
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*grin*
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