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Rack mount Monitor/keyboards w/kvm

I am looking for info on Rack mount Montor/keyboard w/kvm build in. I got HP, IBM and Compaq saying stay away from them. Just use the ones without the KVM. Can anyone give me some more info on these. I have been looking at http://www.42u.com. I have some w/o KVM build in but the KVM is such a pain to fit I though these combos might be worth the additional cost. Any comments would be great

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How many devices are you connecting to.

We used a non-name branded built-in, but as an engineer working at the console, I hated the positioning of the mouse buttons around the trackball (if you are at a console a lot).  It also missed the HOME and END keys and did not work on one port.  

Most of the larger firms OEM their KVM solutions from someone else.  I have used IBM and Dell KVMs which both seemed to be from Avocent.  I prefer separate KVMs, since they don't really take up much space if mounted at the back of the rack.  If you have a small number of servers, I would suggest a Belkin with OSD.  If you have a large number or have servers outside the server room, I like the Avocent's KVM over Ethernet (basically a KVM dongle with an ethernet connection for your servers).  Much easier to cable manage Cat5 cables through your racks.  Avocent's also supports an IP address so you could access your KVM over the network, if desired.

Hope this helps.

dudepuppetAuthor Commented:
Up to 12 devices. So that is another reason not to get the all-in-one as they only have 8 ports. I have also been looking at the IP KVM's. Is that what the Avocent is? Does that dongle plug into the keyboard & Mouse ports or just a USB? I like the smaller cables alot. Cable a rack with those thick cables stinks.

They have all kinda options.  Probably best to chat with a direct sales rep from there.  

They have 16 port, IP KVM, AVRIQ connected.  It is a bit pricy, but if you have to manage all the systems just the cabling ease made it worth it for me.  I had several OMNIVIEW, which were cheap, but always pulled cables loose, had to squeeze through, weren't quite long enough, mouse got locked somehow, just don't seem to have those issues anymore.

Plus, you can cascade some of them off another, if you think you will be growing later, and still use a single monitor.

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