Column Breaks in Crystal Reports

I have an existing Crystal Report 8.5 report that has multiple columns in it.  I would like to be able to set column breaks in the report but I cannot see how you do that in Crystal.
porcrimAsked:
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mlmccConnect With a Mentor Commented:
I can't think of any way either except with subreports or perhaps groups.

I don't think either will really solve your problem unless you use subreports in columns

Detail Section
Sub1                        Sub2                    Sub3                 Sub4

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peter57rCommented:
Hello porcrim,

I don't believe there is any facility to do this in CR.

Pete
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frodomanCommented:
Agree with Pete.  You may be able to use subreports though depending on what it is you want to accomplish...
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porcrimAuthor Commented:
I might not have given enough details in my original explanation.  The issue that I am having is with keeping grouped data together in a multi-column report.  My report has four groupings (Name,Type, Provider, and Address).  I would like my four groupings to render in the same column but what is happening is that on some records the Name and Type are orphaned at the bottom of one column while the Provider and Address are at the top of the next column.  Is there anyway to keep the data together in one column.
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frodomanCommented:
I think that's a better explanation and we understand better what you want.  Unfortunately I think the answer is still that you can't do it.  AFAIK there's no way to control the multicolumn breaks...
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mlmccCommented:
I would agree with frodoman.  

Have you tried using the KEEP TOGETHER options in the section format?  They sometimes cause more problems than they solve and I don't know how they will react with columns.

Can you give a sample of what is wrong?

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peter57rConnect With a Mentor Commented:
porcrim,

There is a technique that is sometimes used to restrict the number of lines on a page which MIGHT be applicable here.
The basis of it is that you have a set of empty detail lines which correspond in total to the number of lines you need to print the stuff you want to keep together.

So if your four groups have a fixed size (a fixed number of lines) then in the outermost group you have multiple empty group footer sections, which, if printed, would force you into the next column - where you would print the first group header for the next group.
To achieve this you have to count every line you print and then use a conditional suppression formula in the extra group footers so that they only print if you are near to the bottom of the column (if the line count > some defined value).
The line count has to be reset to zero if the lines are printed or if you throw a page.

I am guessing that this technique should work with columns but I have never tried it.  Clearly it is not something to be undertaken lightly.

Pete
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porcrimAuthor Commented:
Here is a layout of the problem.  I would like to keep all HOSPITAL data grouped together in a column.  Single records per column are not desirable.  Eliminating orphaned data is though.

Thanks,

Matt

(Column 1)            (Column 2)

HOSPITAL 1            Provider

Practice Type            Address

Provider

Addresss


HOSPITAL 2            HOSPITAL 4

Practice Type            Practice Type                  

Provider                            Provider

Addresss                            Addresss


HOSPITAL 3            HOSPITAL 5

Practice Type            Practice Type

                  Provider
                  
                  Address
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frodomanConnect With a Mentor Commented:
If the number of lines for each hospital is fixed (as shown in your example) you might just try sizing your page & font so that exactly three hospitals & subordinate records fit vertically - that way regardless of how many there are you shouldn't have any breaks in the middle of a hospital...

If the number of lines for each hospital varies then unfortunately it's back to saying that you can't do it...
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