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Telling a spider to crawl a page not on my index page

I would like to tell the search engine spiders to crawl a page that is not indexed in my html paged not linked to directly anywhere in my site.

I have a search engine and the results are all html files however I can't think of a way to let the spider know where they are so it can index them.

Also do spiders index file directory lists.  IE if it comes to a directory and there is just a list of files on the server, will it crawl those files?

thanks, Will
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duzCommented:
webcs -

>I can't think of a way to let the spider know where they are

Search engine spiders follow links and if there are no inbound links to a page they will not find it. You could submit the page by hand and the spider may come and take a look but with zero inbound links it will not be impressed and it will rank the page as low as it can.

>do spiders index file directory lists

Spiders index web pages and files of type pdf, asp, shtml, xml, cfm, doc, xls, ppt, rtf etc., but as above there must be a link to the file for it to get spidered.

Search engines do not 'see' lists of files in a directory, they just spider the web by going from link to link.

- duz

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sudev_shettyCommented:
sorry there is no way to do that unless there is a inbond link to that file
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coreybryantCommented:
You could consider placing a spacer.gif with the link there - that will at least get the hyperlink on the page

-Corey
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duzCommented:
Corey -

You're not suggesting a hidden link are you....?

Number one on the list of Google's "Quality Guidelines - Specific recommendations:" is "Avoid hidden text or hidden links".

- duz

 
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coreybryantCommented:
Well worse comes to worse you know. :)  The other option woud possibly be to create a sitemap as well.  

-Corey
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shalomcCTOCommented:
webcs,
If your web server allows directory browsing, and you submitted the directory url rather than or in addition to the index.html, then the spider will index the directory.
In such a setup, the web server in effect creates an HTML page that lists the directory contents.

ShalomC
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jpjanzeCommented:
You could also do a 'paid submit' of the direct url - it will get independantly listed quicker than doing a 'free' submit.

You could, actually, you SHOULD get a domain name for the page if it is important enough that you want it found! Then optimize the heck out of it for the specific information.
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webcsAuthor Commented:
I did think of that...but will a spider actually index every file in a list like that or just ignore them.  Also thought of putting a chatacter like an asterist on the bottom of the page and linking in that way.  That essentially would not be hidden text correct?

 webcs,
"If your web server allows directory browsing, and you submitted the directory url rather than or in addition to the index.html, then the spider will index the directory.
In such a setup, the web server in effect creates an HTML page that lists the directory contents."

ShalomC
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shalomcCTOCommented:
Hey,
A spider doesn't care whether the HTML page was created manually or by the web server. If the browser can display it - a spider can read it and will index it.

ShalomC
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webcsAuthor Commented:
I suppose it wouldnt help the rank or weuight to be found that way though,
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shalomcCTOCommented:
The rank is calculated by popularity, or incoming links.
If you have Apache, you can add static headers and footers to the automatic directory index, and include there any descriptive text that will help the search engine calculate your site's relevance.


ShalomC
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