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I have an 802.11b WLAN in my home. I have a Microsoft Wireless Broadband router/hub/access point. Is it possible to buy another accesspoint/hub and have the two act as one WLAN? (So I can have a hub in both my room and office. I would like to avoid setting up another network, I am already using 192.168.1.x, 192.168.2.x, 192.168.3.x and 192.168.4.x. I don't relly want to add 192.168.5.x). Is there anyway to expand a WLAN? If so what product do you recomend (Note, I want a hub (that provides Ethernet 10 or 100 or 1000 mbs base T) in my bedroom that has access to the WLAN, not just a device that expands the WLANs range).

Thank you for your time,
Arrummzen
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  Hey Arrummzen,

  To answer your question yes you can be another access point/router and connect
them to expand your WLAN.  This is the link to the Microsoft "How to configure an
access point"  it is describing turning the Microsoft Broadband Networking Wireless Base Station MN500 into just an access point. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817463

  I am not sure how compatable the competitors products would be with your
Microsoft Router so that's why I'd recommend sticking with what you have.

Good Luck.
 
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That tells me how to configure it to be an access point. This is what I have

Hub/Router -----------Wireless-------> Clients
                 |-----------Wired----------> Clients

This is what I want

Hub/AP ----------------Wireless------->Cleints
          |----------------Wireless-------> Hub/AP2 --------------------Wireless------->Clients
          |                                            |-----------Wired----------> Clients
          |-----------------Wired----------> Clients

I want to add a second wireless access point/hub to the network, and have both use the same SSID, and "expand" my WLAN, as well as provide a second Ether net hub to access it. Can I do that?

Thank you for your time,
Arrummzen
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Hey Arrummzen,

  Yes you can set both the Router and WAP so they have the same SSID.  
   Just to make sure, on this part of your design you don't intend to have any
   clients until after the Hub/AP2 right?
 |----------------Wireless-------> Hub/AP2 --------------------Wireless------->Clients
   Everything looks good and as the link above said make sure that your not
   running DHCP on the 2nd AP or there will be problems.  This shouldn't be a
  problem since it states "The wireless base station also stops assigning IP addresses through DHCP" after converting it to an AP.  Also make sure the 2nd AP's IP address is out of the
range of IP's that are assigned to your LAN clients.

Good Luck.
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Thats closer to what I wanted to know. The device labeled "Hub/AP2" is both a hub and access point. It has 4 Ethernet ports. If I send a Ethernet frame to it. It will broadcast that frame to all the other ports and to the wireless. I want to set it up so that if I send a frame from a computer connected via a physical ethernet port to Hub/AP it will be broadcast over the WLAN, picked up by Hub/AP2 and then sent to all the physical ports of Hub/AP2. In effect combining 2 WLANs and to Physical LANs. I already have one Physical LAN and one WLAN bridged using Hub/AP. I want to expand the network. Bandwidth is not an issue here, as this is my own personal network, and I rarely need more than 10mbs.

Hub/AP ----------------Wireless------->Cleints
          |----------------Wireless-------> Hub/AP2 --------------------Wireless------->Clients
          |                                            |-----------Wired----------> Clients
          |-----------------Wired----------> Clients

Right now. Hub/Ap isn't useing any of its higher level features like routing or DHCP. All of that is being taken care of by a Windows 2000 Server connected to Hub/AP. The Windows 2000 Server has two Ethernet ports, so it routers bettweeen 192.168.4.x (this is what Hub/AP is on) and 192.168.1.x (this is a network not on the diagram).

So If I buy another Hub/AP I can connect it to my existing network by using the same SSID, and then create a bridge, in effect expanding the coverage of my WLAN and providing a second physical point of access?

Thank you for your time,
Arrummzen
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I found the correct answer myself. The answer is no. What I wanted to do is not possible. You can not link two WLANs together wirelessly (you can if you connect them physicaly) using Microsoft braodband routers/Access points (it may be possible with other venders equitment, but I asked about Microsoft equitment in perticular).

Thank you for your time,
Arrummzen
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