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I understand that using the root account may be convenient but not a good idea in the long run.  I have a whole bunch of directories that should be edited by user A but sometimes they are edited by root.  Is there a way to make any new file/edited file in a certain folder be owned by user A regardless if root or any other user is the one creating it.  I've tried setting the uid and gid permissions but this does not work (at least with the root user).  Changing the umask will not help the issue due to security concerns.  Any suggestions?
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By the way, I am using RedHat 9.
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I decided to try all of my possibilites and found something interesting.  Note that I am working as the root user and the Backup directory is inside the home directory of 'personA'.  If I do
chmod -R 4755 Backup
and decide to create a new file inside the Backup directory, the new file will still be owned by user and group root

However, if I do
chmod -R 2755 Backup
and decide to create a new file inside the Backup directory, the new file will be owned by user root and group 'personA.'

This is half the battle since a umask change of the directory will do the trick.  Does anyone know why the first command does not work with root?  As a matter of fact, does anyone have a good resource for permissions handling with situations like mine?  Thanks
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I have set the umask in 'personA' .bash_profile file and all works now.  I have one more question in addition to the one above.  Is this setting of umask only available per user home directories or can each directory have its own umask?  It seems that XFS is the only file system versatile enough to do this.  Is this true?  Any thorough and complete references in the matter?  Thanx.
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chown will change the owner of a file

There is also chmod+s which is a sticky bit which usually keeps the files in a folder associated with that owner.  The chmod is ran on the folder.

I don't have a root account on the machine I am working on right now so you will have to give it a shot.

umask is a  per user command so if umask is set it will always (irregardless of workign dir) set that umask
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So it seems that by setting the permissions to 'chmod -R 2755 <dir>' we are beginning to get the right behaviour.  If we set the umask to 002 in .bash_profile for this user (personA) we are almost there although any file created by root is still not group writeable.  At the moment I cannot continue testing because I have another user PersonB, whom I made a group member of PersonA's group (usermod -G PersonA PersonB), however PersonB cannot get into any of PersonA's directories.  Any help?
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