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regarding system functions

hi,

 If i want to use an C library i should include an header file in my C file.If i want to use a
System function in unix like open,read,write is it necessary to include a header file?
For sytem functions will it be automatically loaded or some may need header files?
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sunnycoderCommented:
Hi pigeon7778,
> System function in unix like open,read,write is it necessary to include a header file?
> For sytem functions will it be automatically loaded or some may need header files?

you will need header files ... check the man pages "synopsis" section to determine which files to include

Sunnycoder
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hongjunCommented:
they need header files.
See open() example
http://www.qnx.com/developers/docs/qnx_6.1_docs/neutrino/lib_ref/o/open.html

From there, you can find many other function calls.

hongjun
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PaulCaswellCommented:
Pigeon7778,

When you #include a header you are not actually including the code it referrs to. Generally, all you are doing is reminding your module of the interface to those functions such as parameter positioning etc. It is the link phase that actually inserts the required code.

Paul
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ssnkumarCommented:
It is the rule of the language which makes you add header files.

The rule of C language says that, when you want to use a variable or function, it should be declared before its use. If not, it will not be able to tell the type of the variable (return type and type of parameters in case of functions) and hence will not be able to do the syntax checking.
Hence it expects a forward declaration of every variable and function.

This is what is header file used for. It contains the declarations of all the functions and declrations/definition of variables, types and structures.
The actual definition may lay somewhere else (most probably in a library which is a .so or .a file)
During linking these libraries will be linked. So, the compiler cannot wait till linking time for syntax checking. Hence the declarations will be placed in a header file so that compilation goes thru.

Hence, both in case of library functions and system calls, inclusion of header file is mandatory.

Hope it is clear now.....

-ssnkumar
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Sjef BosmanGroupware ConsultantCommented:
Conclusion: you don't need header-files if you don't want to. They just come in very handy, for the C-compiler needs a definition of an external function before it can be used, in order to do some type-checking. Take your manual and define the systemcalls yourself.
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Sjef BosmanGroupware ConsultantCommented:
(Should I stick around to wait for the walls coming down on me??)
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PaulCaswellCommented:
>>(Should I stick around to wait for the walls coming down on me??)

Yes! You've just deeply confused a budding programmer by suggesting one of the worst programming practices there is. May you forever live in interesting times :)~

Paul
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Sjef BosmanGroupware ConsultantCommented:
(As the Chinese saying goes...)

Oops, that hurts. Dear Pigeon7778, please use in 100% of your programming the include-files supplied with your compiler or system. We won't confuse you with the reasons why, unless you want to know.

Paul, it's very interesting over here! :)
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PaulCaswellCommented:
Or the 'full' version of the (perhaps scottish) curse:

May you live in interesting times and attract the attention of important people and may all your dreams come true.

http://hawk.fab2.albany.edu/sidebar/sidebar.htm

Paul
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pigeon7778Author Commented:
Thanks a lot everyone.
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