tail | grep | while read a; waits for EOF

Hello,
I would like to have some like that :

tail -f syslog | grep Daemon | while read Message ; do
   echo $Message;
done
Unfortunally it *seems* like grep is buffering the though-flow. Because this
tail -f syslog | while read Message ; do
   echo $Message;
done
works. Except the case that grep is missing. Why does is seem that grep is buffering the through-flow ? It actually waits until I kill the tail process and EOF comes.
HELP PLEASE
Thanks
Dennis
DennisWoodAsked:
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EOLConnect With a Mentor Commented:
it seems so to me
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EOLCommented:
try

 tail -f d.log | grep --line-buffered deamon | while read Message; do echo $Message; done
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EOLCommented:
found by man grep / buffer, states altough that this could hit performance of the script a little ( obviously )
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sunnycoderCommented:
tail -f syslog | grep Daemon

should do what you are asking for .... While is not required and It works fine for me (RH8.0) ... It prints the desired lines and gets dynmically updated too
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EOLCommented:
hm see I suppose he didn't put the "while read" for fun after it, I suppose he's doing something more then echo within.
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DennisWoodAuthor Commented:
Re EOL:
My grep dos not have the option --line-buffered or simular. I am using Debian 3.0. The grep is version (GNU grep) 2.4.2.
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DennisWoodAuthor Commented:
Re: Sunnycoder
The echo $Message is replaced by something like :
echo $Message | send to my IM
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sunnycoderCommented:
Hi Dennis,

tail -f syslog | grep Daemon | send to my IM ... does that work for you?

EOL,
There is no way I would know that ... I prefer not to make any assumptions and tend to start from the most trivial things ... May be cuz that is what I find easier to do ;o)
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EOLCommented:
Linux 2.6.5-1.358 #1 Sat May 8 09:04:50 EDT 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1

apt-get update grep

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sunnycoderCommented:
Atleast GNU grep 2.5 onwards supports the line-buffered option ... Is it possible for you to upgrade your grep ?
http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/doc/grep_3.html#IDX73
http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/
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EOLCommented:
Sunnycoder, I assume people see the obvious before asking, thus I assumed this beeing a simple example, which should work for the sake of extending it later a bit.
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sunnycoderCommented:
We are entitled to hold different opinions and use different approaches.
Peace
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EOLCommented:
No! Let's fight a little about it ( I loooove fights )
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sunnycoderCommented:
In that case, I would suggest taking the discussion to a new thread ... Here let us try and get Dennis to the solution he came looking for
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EOLCommented:
Very constructive!
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DennisWoodAuthor Commented:
RE EOL:
It does not change anything when I remove the while
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DennisWoodAuthor Commented:
Ooops it wasd RE Sunnycoder
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DennisWoodAuthor Commented:
Re EOL:
My debian says it is up-to-date :-)
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sunnycoderCommented:
Hi Dennis,

Download latest grep sources from the link I posted and compile it ... instead of just grep, pass path to this new grep executable ... use --line-buffered as suggested by EOL above and post back the results
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EOLCommented:
even if removing the while doesn't make a difference, --line-buffered should make one, since it's quite possible that your grep is holding back output, but by specifying --line-buffered, it will put the contents out as soon as a line is finished guaranteed.
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DennisWoodAuthor Commented:
Okay, I do not really want to download and compile the new grep. Is therefore the only way like ?
tail | grep | while read Message ; do
   if echo "$Message" | grep -q daemon ; then
       echo "$Message" | send to my IM
   fi;
done

Thanks Dennis
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