IDENTITY_INSERT

Greetings...can someone please help me resolve this problem (I'm new to SQL):

I have a table (RotaryDrilling) with an identity field (Record_Number) that uses

CREATE Trigger insert_key ON RotaryDrilling
FOR Insert AS
INSERT INTO RotaryDrillingCA (Record_Number) SELECT Record_Number FROM inserted
Order by Record_Number

to update Record_Number to a second table (RotaryDrillingCA). Using an Access (2000) form to input a new record, I get the following error:

ODBC--insert on a linked table 'dbo_RotaryDrilling' failed.
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Explicit value must be specified for identity column in table 'RotaryDrilling' when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to ON. (#545)

I don't want to specify an explicit value...what do I need to do? This is very urgent.

Thanks...
rsanglimAsked:
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hkamalConnect With a Mentor Commented:
You can switch off IDENTITY_INSERT at db level;
SET IDENTITY_INSERT OFF
in your session or add it prior to the INSERT statement in your trigger ..

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HilaireCommented:
Most likely you have set IDENTITY_INSERT somewhere else in your code

If you want the identity field to be populated auotmatically, you'll have to issue a

SET IDENTITY_INSERT RotaryDrilling  OFF

statement
(I think the problem is not related to the trigegr itself)
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
I agree that the problem is not related to the trigger itself...I was trying to supply all the information that may be relevant. I'm not 'savvy' enough to have set IDENTITY_INSERT somewhere else...how do I set it to OFF?
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
e.g., where would I issue the OFF statement?
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SjoerdVerweijCommented:
Query Analyzer.
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
Using the Query Analyzer, can I execute code that issues the OFF statement each time a user wants to enter a new record via the form? Is that another INSERT trigger (or an addition to what I currently have)? My apologies, but this is all foreign to me.

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HilaireCommented:
No, you should not have to set it to off whenever you need to issue an insert statement.

If you don't remember setting it to on, maybe you could search your code to find where it was set to on.

Basically this should be done only in rare occasions, since automatic incremental number is what identity fields are intended for.

Maybe yuo had to set it ON for a special loading process ??
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
The only code I have is an INSERT/DELETE trigger(s). When I designed the table, I identified the field as PK, Identity=Yes, Seed = 1, Increment = 1. It occurs to me that this may be the source of my problem when I attempt to insert a new record.

The problem doesn't arise when inserting into the table but, rather, when I attempt to insert the record number into the foreign key of the associated table (Identity = No).
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
hkamal - I was just experimenting with your suggestion (add prior to the INSERT statement of my trigger) prior to my last post, and seem to be having some initial success.
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
Adding SET IDENTITY_INSERT OFF prior to the INSERT statement of the trigger has not resolved the problem...
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SjoerdVerweijCommented:
Okay, this

"Explicit value must be specified for identity column in table 'RotaryDrilling' when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to ON. (#545)"

That the trigger is not the problem. Please show how you are inserting (stored procedure?).
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hkamalCommented:
rsanglim, what happens when you do a manual insert :
INSERT INTO RotaryDrillingCA (Record_Number) SELECT 123456 (from QA)

And when you do it inside a proc:
create proc InsertTest as
  INSERT INTO RotaryDrillingCA (Record_Number) SELECT 123456 (from QA)
go
exec InsertTest
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
I'm sorry, hkamal - what is your reference to ""(from QA)"?

Also, I just ran a test on a PDA that pushes data into the 'master' table (RotaryDrilling). The data went in fine, and the associated Record_Number was inserted into the FK of the other table...no issues.
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
hkamal - I'm fairly convinced your original solution re: << add it prior to the INSERT statement in your trigger >> is the answer. However, even though I've included the statement in the INSERT trigger it seems as though it needs to be 'refreshed'. I ran the SET IDENTITY_INSERT OFF in the Query Analyzer, on the off chance it would work, and it did.

On one hand, that's good news. On the other, I shouldn't have to refresh every time a new record is inserted should I?
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rsanglimAuthor Commented:
hkamal - thanks...I think this is going to get it.
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hkamalCommented:
OK good stuff !
I always assume people use Query Analyser and would know the shorthand "QA".
I asked you to test the manual parts as I was curious which part caused the problem (though adding SET IDENTITY_INSERT OFF  right before the insert would fix it anyway
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