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Logon Failure:  the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer. XP HOME

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I am a technician working on another person's network, so I don't know all of the history of the machine I'm working on.

I will refer to the XP Home computer as the "server" because it is hosting the resources I wish to access.
I will refer to my XP Pro computer as the client, it is the computer with which I am trying to access the resources shared on the XP Home machine.

THE SERVER:
It is running Windows XP Home edition w/ all available updates installed.
No firewall software is installed.
I have used Hijack This, Spybot S & D, and PestPatrol to make sure things are as clean as possible.
I have reset the TCP/IP stack and uninstalled and reinstalled "File and Printer Sharing".
I have directories which are shared and the permissions set to "Full Control" by "Everyone".
I have local accounts on both client and server with the same username and password (not blank) and I am logged into this account on the client when trying to access the shared resources.

By reading other posts on this error message I have come to conclude that an incorrect security setting exists on the server computer.

If the "server" was XP Pro, I would go to gpedit.msc > "Local Computer Policy" > "Computer Configuration" > "Windows Settings" > "Security Settings" > "Local Policies" > "User Rights Assignment" >

and check that there were not problem entries under:

"Access this computer from the network", and
"Deny access to this computer from the network"

BUT, XP HOME does not have gpedit.msc.  I have been looking for hours, and I cannot find any way to view or modify these settings, although I'm sure that they exist and are applicable even on Home edition.

I even tried installing a prog called "WhatChanged for Windows" on an XP Pro machine I have, took a snapshot, changed the security setting in question, took another snapshot and compare the two.  Unfortunately, the change that gpedit made was in a subkey of HKLM > SECURITY >     which as far as I can tell is not accessible for viewing or modfying.

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by:ramumorla
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XP home cannot act as a server

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by:crissand
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Enable simple file sharing on the xp pro machine.
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by:ramumorla
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Author meant-- XP home as a server

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I object.
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<rant>None of the comments posted should be marked as "accepter answer."  That would only mislead others who might happen upon this question to think that there is an answer here, when there is not.

IMHO:  designating of any old comment as the "ACCEPTED ANSWER" when no REAL answer was given is the one major failing of this site, and threatens to ruin the entire resource.  I think that for EE to remain useful as it explodes in size, it will only become more critical to separate questions with working solutions from questions without.</rant>
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I see what you mean, but how can the moderator know if the problem is solved or not if the question's author feedback did not exists? I wrote "Enable simple file sharing..." did you do that or not? The process of asking/answering is sometimes a dialog.
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The correct answer for this question is XP Home Operating system cannot work as a server- Thats what is the answer I gave. Any Objections?Any biody has any other view? Can anybody else make XP-Home o/S as a Server?



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XP HOME cannot host resources
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ramumorla.  XP Home can host resources.  If you think it cannot, you don't know what you're talking about.
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by:crissand
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XP Home can share resources using a system called simple file sharing, which is aproximatelly the same as in windows 9x. That system requires the guest account to be enabled on the "server" and the windows xp that connects to it authenticate as guest.
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by:ramumorla
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Sharing resources is not hosting resources. I appologise if anybody misunderstood hosting resources--

Server means- Server which can host all types of resources not Just files. if you are just talking about files- we are taliking about peer-peer network. where you must have either a guest account enabled in both the computers or you must have same user name on both the computers. The author did not ask just for file sharing. He needed this XP HOME computer to be a server in real terms.

mrnathan2 Do you know everything in XP o/S? your comment was rude.

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Well, I don't want to get into a drawn out argument over semantics.  And, I'm sorry that you took my comment to be rude.  It wasn't intended to be.

Still, there is no definitive distinction between "sharing" and "hosting".  The resources I was sharing were files and printers located on, or attached to the XPH machine.  Thus the XPH machine was the HOST of those resources.

YOU may personally use those words however you like, but the words themselves do NOT indicate what resources are being discussed or in what network environment.

That is why I provided the context information which I did in the original post.  I even went so far as to "spell out" why I was referring to the XP home machine as the server and I put the word "SERVER" in quotation marks.  Again, the word "server" does not always have the constricted definition you may think it has.

>>Server means- Server which can host all types of resources not Just files.<<

Server can mean different things in different contexts.  For example, in some contexts, the word "server" refers to a program or process running on a machine, not the machine itself.  In this context it would never make sense to say that "Server means- server which can host all types of resources."  Think of a DNS server (service or program), it does not host all types of resources.  Just one.

Since I only spoke of two computers, one XPP one XPH, and never indicated that they were on a domain (which would have been a pretty important detail to leave out if they were), I think it was pretty clear that the arrangement was peer-to-peer.  To tell the truth, my first impression when I saw you initial comment was that you had not paid much attention to the details I included in my question.

Finally, I do NOT know everything about XP OS, but that is why I would avoid making unqualified unilateral statements about it like saying 'XP Home cannot act as a server, period.'

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When you said Server in your Original Post you never mentioned what your resources were. I totally agree about your contexts here but When you say server nowadays nobody(I mean it ) Nobody takes it just as file server. Also you mentioned XP PRO existance- Where people think that the environment is a kind of Business type. Also you mentioned about lot of softwares including firewalls- Which I thought you want them to be used as resources. Your question was Ambigous. Also you just abondened the question you were neither intersted any more nor requested for a refund.

Dear Moderator: If you think the Author is correct in his intentions I dont have an objection for Points refund.

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Okay folks - here's my opinion (and we all have them).
I read the question as the author clarified later - that 'server' indicated the system that was sharing out the resources he needed from the XPP system.
XPH can act as a server in a FnP environment. That said though - XPH was never intended by M$ to be used in much of a network environment - although the capability does exist within this edition of the OS, it's not the powerhorse networking that Pro has.  

In my opinion - the actual answer here is to disable XPH's default method of sharing resources.  And to do so, you must boot into Safe Mode and login as the administrator - otherwise, you don't get those options.  So, while it probably wasn't a detailed instruction provided by crissand @ http:#11785963, his answer appears to come the closest to the solution.

mrnathan2 - this site works because of the dialogue that is established between the contributing experts and the author (you).  If you post a question and never return to reply or close it out properly, it involves:
a) the time and effort of a cleanup volunteer (CV) who makes his/her determination on how it should be closed
b) any contributing experts to agree/disagree with that recommendation
c) a moderator to finalize, based upon his/her findings.

Since it is obvious that you did not necessarily disapper (like many abanonded questioner's authors do) - I believe it would help to know where you stand on this one.
Was your situation resolved by any comment here (directly or indirectly)?

If not, then you should request a refund and the question be closed.  If it's still an issue, posting a new question might be in your best interest.  We prefer that the author's handle the closing of a thread when they "exist".

Sometimes authors (particularly ones with unlimited points) will grant points to the contributing experts - if not for their assistance in sorting this out for you - perhaps as a gesture for the free time they have given.

In either case, remember it is your responsibility to manage your questions.  That means post responses whether something works or not.  I know a lot of times I will subscribe to a thread and wait for a response from the author on something already posted before I will make my own recommendation.  So keep in mind, the posting experts may not be the only ones reading the thread awaiting your reply.

GhostMod - naturally I defer to your further judgement on closing this, particularly if the author doesn't respond.  

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Sorry, but I must request refund.
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