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New Pre-assembled Comp: Video Card and CD Drive

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I recently got a new, pre-assembled barebones from AresnalPC without a video card or a CD drive (I have my own). I put my video card in the PCI slot, fits just fine, everything's great. Haven't booted it up, yet. Windows is not yet installed. I tried to put my older CD drive in, but it wouldn't fit in the case. Furthermore, the IDE cable from my old computer didn't fit in any of the IDE ports on the mobo. I decided I might as well trash the CD drive, because it was pretty outdated anyway. In the meantime, I thought I might as well fire it up to make sure everything's ok. I plugged the keyboard into the PS/2 and the monitor into the video card, and then booted it... except the monitor won't display anything. The monitor works on my other computer just fine. I suspect it's because the new comp has no drivers for the monitor, but there's no where else to put the monitor cable. What can I do? Thanks :)  

This is the first computer I've ever assembled, so sorry if some of this sounds stupid :)
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by:Callandor
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If this pc was built without a video card, it probably doesn't have Windows installed.  Did the motherboard have an AGP slot (it's a brown slot offset from the white PCI slots)?  The motherboard may be defaulting to an AGP video, as opposed to the PCI card you put in.  Check if it has onboard video, which would be a 15-pin connector on the back.  At the very least, you should be seeing the BIOS messages and RAM count.
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by:photon9
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Nope, no 15-pin connector. There's an IEEE and a male 9-pin connector, and that's it.

And I added to the point value because I just remembered another question that's not really important enough for its own question. With my old CD drive, it had a standard IDE port on the back, except there was no pin on the center top. The IDE cable that came with it had no center top pin either. When I look at the motherboard of my old computer, I can't see where this IDE cable would fit, because all the ports have center top pins. Same with my new motherboard. So I know this is stupid, but I'm about to go buy a new CD drive anyway, and when I get it I suspect it'll be the same way. What is this, and what should I do?
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by:Callandor
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The new IDE connectors use an 80-pin cable that has one pin blocked out in the middle.  If your motherboard IDE connectors have all the pins, you need to use the old 40-wire cables.

Back to your problem.  Since this system is new, there is a chance the motherboard doesn't work at all, but before we come to that conclusion, we should see if we can get it to boot.  I suggest taking all connectors to drives off and see if it will boot at all.  Can you look at the motherboard and post what the white letters on the side say?  This should be the manufacturer and model of the motherboard.
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by:bobo_tech
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Does it have onboard vga ports like in this picture:
http://www.arsenalpc.com/Details.asp?ItemID=2274
(port number 3).

If it does, i would connect your monitor to that port and see what happens.

It very well could be that the system is set in the bios to "agp boot first" which would boot to the onboard video but wont' boot to the add-on pci video card.  if you were to change the bios setting to "pci boot first" then the pci card would be the main card to boot to.
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by:bobo_tech
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Scroll down on the link i sent so to see the ports.
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by:lidsky
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photon9,

Just a quick question here. If the system you bought is the one that bobo_tech is refering to then it seems that it a CPU has to be ordered seperately.

You did order a CPU, didn't you?
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by:photon9
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Callandor: Gotchya. When I turn it on, it seems to be OK. I can't actually SEE that, but it seems to be ok.  Also, the mobo is the D845HVL Skt 478 400MHz SDR Audio/LAN mATX

Bobo_tech: No, there's none of that. :(

Lidsky: Yeah, of course. 2.4GhZ P4.
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by:Callandor
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That board looks like it has an AGP slot! http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=B-D845HV-SK1&cat=MBB

If you have that brown slot, get an AGP card and plug it in, and hook up a monitor to it.
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by:photon9
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Fixed, sorry all. The problem was, amazingly, the RAM. There was one RAM stick that prevented the entire machine from booting. Thanks anyway, guys! You're great! :)
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