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Making framed page look like there are no frames, just don't want to load header more than once

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I am working with frames in FrontPage 2003. I want my page to look like it has no frames - to scroll with the entire page and whatever else it takes.

I have already made the frame borders invisible.

I am concerned about backwards compatability to IE 4.0 and Netscape 3.0 or 4.0.

Should I use inline frames? Again, backward compatability is important.

I'm using slices from Paint Shop Pro to slice up the header for faster display.

I just want my page to act like there is no frames and still not load my header more than once.
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by:weikelbob
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It's OK for the header to stay in place while each page loads when you browse through my site, but I want the whole page to scroll together.
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by:seanpowell
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I think FrontPage TA would be better here... moved again :-)
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by:ravisimpi
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You cant use frames and scroll the whole page together.

 The alternative would be to use include command in frontpage.

Create a htm file.. which you want to be a header of all the pages.. and save it as header.htm.

 And start designing other pages.. 'include' the header.htm at the place you want it to be ..

For this to work.. your hosting company should have installed frontpage extensions. Check it out with them.

  the other alternative is to use server side things like asp, php etc..
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by:ravisimpi
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May be you will get a clear picture with this tutorial

http://www.outfront.net/tutorials_02/getting_started/includes3.htm
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by:weikelbob
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ravisimpi,

what the include command is - could you go into a little bit of what it is and does?
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by:weikelbob
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An example page of what I want my frames to be like is BoxedArt.com
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by:klp2332
ID: 11798289
well first of all if your concenered about the IE versions which are for old computers i suggest you set your images and tables to a percentage so resolution wouldnt be a problem. But theres also a wizard in frontpage i told you before and i dont think its possible to scroll the whole page. Never bothered to look at that page that ravisimpi mestioned. But well good luck.
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by:weikelbob
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As like BoxedArt.com, I want my header to stay loaded somehow as the rest of the pages load up.

I don't know if they use frames because you can scroll the whole page down.
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by:ravisimpi
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Had a look at boxedart.com ( i visit this website often tough). And i think that they are using 'php' .

Open the source code of boxedart's index page.

You will see the following code

<!-- HEAD -->
Another file included here.

<!-- Cart_Items --> <!-- /Cart_Items --> Another php file


<!-- Top_Menu_1 -->  <!-- /Top_Menu_1 --> another php file

<!-- Search_Form --> <!-- /Search_Form --> another php file

<!-- Top_Menu_2 -->  <!-- /Top_Menu_2 --> another php file


All these files thay are calling in the index.php file using include command.

And i bet you are seeing their Header stay still ( nearly) That is because they have optimised the graphics that they load very fast.. ANd when those graphics are loaded.. it takes less time to load on the next page. ( the loading time of the header in this page is very fast.. so you are forced to guess that they are staying still) and that they are using a page which stays there always without loading.

  Hope you got what i mean.

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Here's how you can come to know that they are not using frames and are using highly optimised graphics..


  Open www.boxedart.com and allow it to load completly..

 Then in your internet explorer go to tools menu>internet options> delete all the temperory internet files.. and in settings allow the size make it just 1 MB. and OK.

 Now click on some link in boxed art.. and you will see what I mean.
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