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Pix to Pix VPN Question with NAT

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I have a question about a site to site VPN between a Pix 501 and a Pix 506e.
I am going to be setting up a VPN connection so a client is able to access 3 of our servers.
The problem is that we are both using the same address ranges for our internal networks.
So I am guessing that the only way to do this would be to use some sort of NAT.
I guess my question would be is this the easiest way to do this and if so what the commands would be.

This is really general I know, but I just wanted to get to the point.
Any help you could provide would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Nick
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by:wparrott
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Take a look at this document on the Cisco website:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/vpndevc/ps2030/products_configuration_example09186a0080094761.shtml#step3

The problem you are going to have is routing the traffic from your client's network to your servers. Because you are both in the same IP range, and I am assuming the same subnet, their Pix will view traffic destined for your servers as local traffic, not routed traffic. If you, or your client, could use different subnets, it wouldn't be an issue and a standard Pix-to-Pix VPN tunnel would work, with no need to perform NAT translation. See this document to explain it in greater detail:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/vpndevc/ps2030/products_configuration_example09186a00800a2cce.shtml

My knowledge on this subject is limited but I noticed that no one had repied to your question yet. Good luck...
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by:Paisley-Consulting
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Thank You for you help and the links, I appreciate it.

The big problem is that we are both using the 10.x.x.x /8 address range for our internal networks..  That is not really something you can change very easily.  We have a remote office with a 192.168.10.x range setting up the VPN with a office in India that has the 10.x.x.x range.  The problem is that our remote office is connected to our own 10.x.x.x network, so like you said the packets will be bouncing all over the place.  If anyone has any help on how you would NAT this, or any other way you would be able to set this up.

Thanks in advance.
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by:dstarfire
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Too bad you can't just change the addresses on the shared servers to something totally unique, and run that through the nat.  Unfortuantely, that'd require running all local access to those servers through a router which could create some headaches.
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You should translate the internal Adress range to external PAT with a unique external IP adress.
After that the VPN is not connected with the internal IP range but with the public NAT ip.

To do that, you should use an internal NAT device to connect to the PIX.
(Probably a Windows Server (Router), Hardware Router or another PIX)

INTERNAL_NETWORK -> NAT_DEVICE -> PIX_DEVICE -> INTERNET ->...
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